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Offline utri007

Re: Quake
« on: May 23, 2011, 12:55:42 AM »
I belive that you are playing it with A4000? It has a Zorro III slots, when A2000 has a Zorro II. Zorro II limits speed, so I belive that he woun't get big speedup with picasso 4.

I would appreciate if you could tell what kind of FPS you get with Picasso II and Picasso 4?? Start new game, press ¨to get console and write to it timerefresh

With 060 66mhz I get 11 fps with Spectrum 16/24 and 14 fps with AGA. Screen size is 320x200 and 100%. Spectrum is quite much same card than Picasso II.

My system is A1200 with Micronic Zorro II extender. Zorro II bus speed limit is about 4,2mb/s when with AGA it is 5mb/s. Zorro III is about 19mb/s???

Do you have found Clickbooms 060 specified exe? It gives you 2fps more, compared to original exe.

Here some test I've made

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=57812
« Last Edit: May 23, 2011, 12:57:43 AM by utri007 »
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: Quake
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2011, 06:44:12 AM »
Runequest: It is because Zorro vs. AGA bus speed. 4,2 vs. 5

With Mediator it si possible to get quite much higher FSP with quake I belive?

Try to find Clickboom Quake060.exe it is 2 fps faster than original exe
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: Quake
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2011, 10:57:52 AM »
Xanxi: so do you have clickboom latest 060 exe? What pathces are you running?

You get 6 fps in startscreen when you type timerefresh to console? Reolution 320x200 and screen size 2 steps below max? Screen depth 8bit?

Damion: Is it possible that you have forced your Picasso 4 to Zorro II with jumper? And actually used it with your A4000 as a Zorro II card?
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: Quake
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2011, 02:33:38 PM »
Tell us your quake fps with that system? I belive that Picasso 4 is one of the best cards made for amiga. It is proven that it doesn't give any performance increase compared to zorro 2 vs. zorro 3
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: Quake
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2011, 09:22:33 PM »
My result demo1 are

040 40mhz 6,16fps
060 66mhz 9,36fps

Both are aga, annoying is that timedemo doesn't stop, I need to watch it so see results :(

Both are AGA, 320x200 8bit

Timedemo gives good view to general game play, but is annoying to do :(

Here are some more timerefresh benchmarks:

Clickboom 060 exe with 060 66mhz  

aga 15,1
rtg 11,8 (11,82)

Clickboom original exe

aga 13,4
rtg 11 (10,98)

AQuake

aga 10,1 rtg didn't work??

So it is quite much faster with aga, but with rtg less than 1 fps?

Also 040 and 060 difference seems to be quite near mhz=fps??

IF somebody with coding skills read this? I would like to addvertice this http://mikro.naprvyraz.sk/download.htm

Atari 68k duke nukem sources, made with C, much more sophisticated than original amiga duke and more opitimized. SO would you like to check it?
« Last Edit: May 27, 2011, 09:55:10 PM by utri007 »
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: Quake
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2011, 08:00:04 PM »
Trust me, screen modes are equals
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD