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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga Retail News / Sales => Topic started by: System on October 27, 2011, 02:10:21 PM
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AresOne 2011
AresOne Reloaded
The AresOne 2011, just like its predecessors AresOne (http://www.vesalia.de/e_aresone.htm) and AresOne 2010 (http://www.vesalia.de/e_aresone2010.htm), is a complete PC system specifically assembled to be used with AROS (http://aros.sourceforge.net/de/). The hardware components were selected to get the most out of the current AROS version, and to be ready for future improvements. The AresOne 2011 is suitable for Amiga enthusiasts, friends of light HTPC systems, and experienced users, it is not intended for the average Windows user (please keep in mind that AROS, albeit progressing nicely, is still in development). Hardware:
The current base model features the following components:
- µATX AM3 board w/ 4 memory sockets, Radeon HD3000 graphics and high definition audio onboard
- AMD Sempron CPU 2.8 GHz
- 2 GB RAM (DDR3 1333)
- 500 GB SATA HDD
- MS-TECH LC-02 case incl. 400W power supply
You can certainly also upgrade certain components, please have a look at the configuration options. Software:
The AROS Research Operating System is a lightweight, efficient and flexible desktop operating system, designed to help you make the most of your computer. It's an independent, portable and free project, aiming at being compatible with Amiga OS at the API level, while improving on it in many areas.
Additionally to AROS, the AresOne can be pre-installed with Debian GNU/Linux (http://www.debian.org/), Ubuntu (http://www.ubuntu.com/) or Windows, if you wish.
The AresOne also comes with the A-Live X software package, which contains Cinnamon Writer and a licence key for Frying Pan. As a bonus, the 68k Amiga version of Art Effect 4 comes bundled with the other AROS software. (Art Effect 4 is currently not available, unfortunately.)
We also include a special OEM version of Amiga Forever (http://www.vesalia.de/e_amigaforever2009.htm) with the package. The latter is useful for UAE since it contains the required Kickstart and Workbench images (1.3 and 3.x) for UAE plus 50 games and 50 demos. If you need more Amiga Forever, you can also purchase the full version (http://www.vesalia.de/e_amigaforever2010.htm) at a reduced price. Every AresOne customer gets a licence for the AMC software package, the program is available for download on the AMC website (http://a-mc.biz/).
A portion of the AresOne profits will be used to fund AROS projects, especially driver development and licensed application software.
EUR 252.99 incl. 19% German VAT (EUR 212.60 excl. VAT for non-EU customers)
More... (http://www.vesalia.de/e_aresone2011.htm)
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Will someone on this forum please ban this PC spamming/Free Ad pc vendor. I come to this forum to read about topics Amiga. ARES its equipment its software and everything about it, is the same as my mate down the road who puts PCs together with parts and sells them at the local market. Its not Amiga, Has nothing to do with the Amiga and is really starting to piss me off, that this bloke is doing nothing different from from the other piss artists CUSA. Please end this.
Shaz
Edit: Oh and a "portion" how much 1% 20% 50%, Like the Clothing charity down the road, 0.01% perhaps ?
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Will someone on this forum please ban this PC spamming/Free Ad pc vendor. I come to this forum to read about topics Amiga. ARES its equipment its software and everything about it, is the same as my mate down the road who puts PCs together with parts and sells them at the local market.
Why is your mate registering Amiga software and supplying it with PCs specially picked hardware (most PC hardware does not have native drivers for aros) to run an Amiga (sources code) compatible operating system?
You may not want to purchase a computer to run AROS on but other Amiga owners/users like myself have. If you don't want the product don't buy it :-)
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I am probably not going to buy it, but if I am ever going to get a dedicated x86 machine to run Aros, its going to be one of these.
They seem to be good cheap alternatives to PPC and classic systems.
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@Boudicca There are no PPC computers that are legally allowed to be called Amiga in 2011, only ARM tablets and phones and X86 computers.....
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Will someone on this forum please ban this PC spamming/Free Ad pc vendor. I come to this forum to read about topics Amiga. ARES its equipment its software and everything about it, is the same as my mate down the road who puts PCs together with parts and sells them at the local market. Its not Amiga, Has nothing to do with the Amiga and is really starting to piss me off, that this bloke is doing nothing different from from the other piss artists CUSA. Please end this.
Shaz
Edit: Oh and a "portion" how much 1% 20% 50%, Like the Clothing charity down the road, 0.01% perhaps ?
You do realise this is from the guy behind AROS Broadway do you not? This is a different kettle of fish than "your mate down the street" or even CUSA. These are machines built specifically for AROS, and come with AROS and an amiga software pack. PhoenixKonsole has invested a lot of his own time and money on this community, paid a portion of the IntelHD audio driver development costs, contributed heavily to getting Audio Evolution4 ported to AROS, and so much more. What have you contributed besides moaning about something you obviously have little idea about?
@PhoenixKonsole
Ive gotta wonder why you stick with AMD though. Its no longer any cheaper and so far behind Intel its not funny. AMD's athlon2/phenom2's are slower than what Intel produced 3 generations ago (core2), and Bulldozer struggles to even compete with the thing its replacing (athlon2/phenom2). It's a shame, I like to barrack for the underdog, but AMD's cpus are terrible compared to the alternatives these days. They dont even really have bang per buck advantage anymore, which was its saving grace for the last 3 or so years.
Yes AMD cpus still absolutely destroy any ppc cpu still, but its not what theyre competing with.
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Phoenixconsole has done so much for aros. there is no need to be that bad to him.
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Edit: Oh and a "portion" how much 1% 20% 50%, Like the Clothing charity down the road, 0.01% perhaps ?
What if i say more than 300% ?
@fishy_fiz
i have made a new HW proposal to Vesalia.. will be discussed later.
Well why AMD... just because I like the "underdog" feeling and I don't think that the price is bad. I agree that Intel has more power... but at this level it costs too much (at least here in Germany).
And I like "A's" : )
@Boudicca
The AresOne is not here to earn money. Like iMica it was and is just a way to offer a "compatible" AROS systems + with the little revenue i can invest in AROS related stuff. Let it be bounties or projects like AMC.
BTW AMC is also shown on the "new" AmigaOS page ... with no AresOne->no Broadway-> no AMC
Think about this.
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@PhoenixKonsole
Sure, and that's your perogative. Theyre still quite good value, but the bridge has gapped so much in recent times between AMD and Intel that personally Id find it very difficult to buy even a budget AMD machine. Bang per buck probably favors Intel these days, or at best/worst (depending on perspective) theyre much on par.
Intel is a little more pricey, but you get a lot more for the $$.
I too held on with AMD for as long as I saw reasonable, but as much as it disappoints me to say so theyre in trouble with what they have to offer the desktop consumer these days.
While I understand a person may favor one or the other Im not sure enduring customers to a struggling, comparitively weak platform is the right way to go.
Thier only saving grace may be fusion. While quite weak as it stands, one thing Bulldozer architecture hsa going for it is that it lends itself well to the fusion concept. This is one thing that most hardware sites (and its many clueless drones that comment there) have so far failed to point out.
Anyway, none of this is particularly important. Mostly Im just thinking aloud (or in text as is case) :)
Thanks for your efforts and keep up the good work :)
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If you dont like it Boudicca, Don't read it. if you fail to see how this is different to CUSA et al, then you are very misinformed.
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If you dont like it Boudicca, Don't read it. if you fail to see how this is different to CUSA et al, then you are very misinformed.
.......And others quotes.
* I didn't know it was the dude doing AROS however, isn't AROS Open Source ? I maybe misinformed but please enlighten me why I should by a AROS ARES PC ? How is that any different from me picking up el cheap pc mobo case and a few bits and putting AROS on it ?
Why is there this obsession with getting it to work with one vendors kit rather than just getting it to work on generic hardware. ARES lets have the full BOM List and details install docs if its all for the community.
Oh and sorry, Pret a Porter, how silly of me. (Really can't believe the mark up on a 199 euro machine) all I will say is I hope they see you coming. (Obviously not!)
Oh sorry its all for the community, yep that Charity blokes at the door again saying the bag of clothes are for those poor orphans in India. (Yep i'm a cynic sad cow) but in the current climate its for your pocket. Narks me that anyone would claim otherwise.
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I'll come clean.....I really hate......buy me and we give something to someone needy. F*ck that...if I think its needy. I will do that myself without a middleman thanks!.
Charity begins at home.
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Actually can some kind soul point me to the AROS Broadway, Source Tree and Toolchains pls, aswell as the mplayer based AMC source tree. ? A zip of the sources and toolchains for AROS "Broadway" that are distro'ed, on these PCs will do ?
I can't seem to find on them on the ARES Site nor any links to them ?
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.I maybe misinformed but please enlighten me why I should by a AROS ARES PC ?
You don't have to but you may do; don't see why one should get frustrated over this.
Staf.
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AMC is not open source. http://www.ares-shop.de
Broadway is based on the AROS nightlies, while it is a mix of many builds.
Because sometime some parts get broken, so sometimes it is better to stick on an older file.
Broadway is the same + preinstalled apps (not all of them are opensource).
The difference to a nightly is that Broadway is preconfigured to run on AresOne. So sound and ethernet works out of the box, while on an other machines you will need to chose another device driver.
But don't worry. People like you piss me off too. That's the reason why next Broadway will be last Broadway release. For you it is money, for me it is time.
I think 2 distributions are really enough.
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In contrast to the CUSA crap this machine seems to be very reasonably priced (I wonder what the 400W PSU is for though). And one advert post a year isn't bad at all.
Keep going!
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good grief
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AMC is not open source. http://www.ares-shop.de
Broadway is based on the AROS nightlies, while it is a mix of many builds.
Because sometime some parts get broken, so sometimes it is better to stick on an older file.
Broadway is the same + preinstalled apps (not all of them are opensource).
The difference to a nightly is that Broadway is preconfigured to run on AresOne. So sound and ethernet works out of the box, while on an other machines you will need to chose another device driver.
But don't worry. People like you piss me off too. That's the reason why next Broadway will be last Broadway release. For you it is money, for me it is time.
I think 2 distributions are really enough.
Sorry you feel this a personal dig, It isn't but it is open source and you need to address the terms of the licence. So you need to ensure the the build can be creatable include tool chains (Under the terms) including the binaries. (If they are not open sourced, can you details of those vendors, so we can remove the not open source from the distro.)
I know from the sounds of things your sincerely want to aid the community. I would be happy to donate towards a Distro that isn't hiding under the table and where the sources, tools and everything is in the open and can be recreated with sources and that I can install on my PC not one sourced elsewhere.
I believe that AROS should be a full distro with as much of the community together as possible but it needs to survive past a single vendor, it needs to be ours not yours. Sorry thats how I feel about it.
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Now I spent yesterday evening with tooth ache running round in circles on the aros broadway aros home the what someones shop and didnt see a downloads for the distro page. Today, I found it straight away now, other than me being thick, which is probably the case. This has so many fronts, that it is really confusing the f*ck out of me. I take it back that there's a distro iso here. So will spin that and see how that goes. Cheers.
http://www.aros-broadway.de/broadway.iso.7z
I think it was answered in the last post by trekiej at the number of links............Good grief is very apt. Talk about lost/found, burying it in peat for 3 years...Douglas would be proud. All thats finally needed on the Aros Broadway downloads page is a popup saying "Beware of the Leopard!"
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But don't worry. People like you piss me off too. That's the reason why next Broadway will be last Broadway release. For you it is money, for me it is time.
I think 2 distributions are really enough.
Fair do's I spend my life doing that......what keeps me sane. No more Distro's, that is a sad thing. I was hoping to see a full Distro for AROS at some stage. That Im happy to support.
Money (not for commodity hardware, no) Money for this distro ie donations, count me in. Now I've been pointed at the right page (even on your own links), for me this is key.
Time is valuable I appreciate.
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But don't worry. People like you piss me off too. That's the reason why next Broadway will be last Broadway release. For you it is money, for me it is time.
I think 2 distributions are really enough.
Whatever decision you make, don't led it be decided by what some ... on amiga.org post.
greets,
Saf.