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Offline Kremlar

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Re: Two New Full Systems Based on Sam440ep-Flex
« on: September 29, 2012, 04:37:18 PM »
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When I checked earlier this evening, the OEM version of Windows7 Pro costs about $91 U.S. dollars, or 70.77 Euros. The "Home" version of Windows7 is cheaper, but most people that know anything about computers don't want the stripped down "Home" version, which is why I used the Pro version.


Just curious, where did you find Windows 7 Professional OEM so cheap?  Normal price through legit channels is typically $140 or so.

Also, what features are you using that are not available in Home Premium?
 

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Re: Two New Full Systems Based on Sam440ep-Flex
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2012, 02:10:19 PM »
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Windows OEM can be *very* cheap, depending on reseller. Point is OEM shouldn't really be sold separately to consumers at all but only bundled with new computers (this is the very definition of OEM), but some does this anyway. Hence there are no real trustworthy comparable list prices on this, you have to search to find the best bargain, there can be big differencies. There are however restrictions in OEM versions of windows when it comes to upgrading the computer (new motherboard/CPU etc); the OEM Windows is kind of similar to the MorphOS license in this regard, it's tied to the HW it's supposed to be bundled with. My brother built himself a new PC (put it together from selected components) and tried to install his old OEM on it, but product activation failed. But then he simply called the support by phone and said his computer had broke down and the seller had replaced some parts because of original parts no longer existed (playing ignorant), and somehow MS support opened it up so he could register/authenticate windows on his new HW!
 
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I understand OEM very well, thanks.  Microsoft actually allows the sale of OEM Windows from their normal System Builder channel to other "system builders" as long as the package remains unopened so that they can accept the license agreement.  This is why NewEgg and other major retailers can sell OEM Windows with no complaints from Microsoft.
 
There certainly are list prices and typical selling prices for OEM Windows obtained through the System Builder channel.  If you find copies of OEM Windows for sale at a substantially lower price than say NewEgg then one of several things must be happening:
 
1 - it's counterfeit (a VERY common occurrence from fly by night vendors)
2 - vendors or OEMs are starting to dump existing inventory in anticipation of a new release (Windows 8)
 
2 does happen, especially from major OEMs like Dell, HP and Lenovo, but I'm not so sure buying a license sold to Dell for installation on a non-Dell PC is valid.  If you care about having a legit license then you might be concerned.  If you only care that it activates online and passes validation checks then you might be fine.
 
Yes, an OEM license cannot be moved from PC to PC according to the license.  Same thing if a motherboard is upgraded.  If the motherboard is defective and an exact brand/model replacement in installed the license is still intact.
 
However, like you said, Microsoft is very leanient - I've never heard them deny a license activation unless you specifically tell them you're doing something against the license agreement.  Typically they ask only how many PCs the license is installed on - if you say 1, they will give you an activation code.
 

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Re: Two New Full Systems Based on Sam440ep-Flex
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2012, 12:05:52 AM »
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If it installs on your HW and then activates properly on your machine online in the "Genuine Windows" test (or whatever they call it), then *it is* legit! At least according to Microsoft themselves apparently, and they are quite picky about this and they can easily kill/blacklist serials to prevent activation of foul copies. IMHO price is irrelevant to this.  

Of course not.  For example, if you somehow obtain a non-profit license for Windows (which is available at a dramatically reduced cost) and are able to install and activate it, do you think if Microsoft came knocking on your door they would consider you legitimally licensed?  Of course not.  
 
Most people don't care - they only care if they can install and activate.  Doesn't mean you are legitimately licensed however.  Microsoft is absolutely NOT picky - it's very rare that they will blacklist install codes - they only do it in extreme cases.