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Operating System Specific Discussions => AROS Research Operating System => Topic started by: Minuous on June 05, 2016, 02:21:40 AM

Title: OpenReaction and AROS
Post by: Minuous on June 05, 2016, 02:21:40 AM
Quote from: wawrzon;808486
if anybody who wants to contribute to "amiga" needs to write his own operating system replacement first, or at least its critical components, then the situation is clearly ridiculous.


You mean like the way the entire ReAction subsystem is missing from AROS?
Title: Re: Enhancer Software package for PowerPC & 68k
Post by: wawrzon on June 05, 2016, 02:35:08 AM
Quote from: Minuous;809519
You mean like the way the entire ReAction subsystem is missing from AROS?


well, yes, as long as there is any software that requires it. thats the reason having aros 68k in place as example, otherwise we could simply go on using updated amiga kickstat versions.

luckily there isnt much that actually requires reaction/class act. aweb comes to my mind so far.
Title: Re: Enhancer Software package for PowerPC & 68k
Post by: OlafS3 on June 05, 2016, 09:39:39 AM
Quote from: Minuous;809519
You mean like the way the entire ReAction subsystem is missing from AROS?

classact works on Aros 68k and can easily be added (as MUI 3.8 and MUI 4 and other toolkits). Reaction might work too but I never tested it because it is closed and only available from 3.9
Title: OpenReaction and AROS
Post by: Terminills on August 13, 2016, 02:23:47 PM
Quote from: Minuous;809519
You mean like the way the entire ReAction subsystem is missing from AROS?


You could contribute to OpenReaction instead of spewing bs about AROS every chance you get.   It's fine if you don't want to but either put up or shut up. =]


https://sourceforge.net/projects/openreaction/
Title: Re: Enhancer Software package for PowerPC & 68k
Post by: kolla on August 13, 2016, 03:57:40 PM
OpenReaction? Did you just make that up right now? :p
Title: Re: Enhancer Software package for PowerPC & 68k
Post by: Terminills on August 13, 2016, 04:26:59 PM
Quote from: kolla;812504
OpenReaction? Did you just make that up right now? :p

Lol nah salass00 started it in 2012 iirc ;)

I was wrong it was 2009

http://www.a500.org/uploads/images/untitled1.jpg

http://aros-exec.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?start=0&topic_id=3947&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&type=&mode=0
Title: Re: Enhancer Software package for PowerPC & 68k
Post by: OlafS3 on August 13, 2016, 05:31:15 PM
Quote from: Terminills;812505
Lol nah salass00 started it in 2012 iirc ;)

I was wrong it was 2009

http://www.a500.org/uploads/images/untitled1.jpg

http://aros-exec.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?start=0&topic_id=3947&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&type=&mode=0

Who needs Reaction on Aros? :)

Besides... ClassAct works on Aros so Reaction might too (not tested because almost no software available on 68k)
Title: Re: Enhancer Software package for PowerPC & 68k
Post by: OlafS3 on August 13, 2016, 05:32:26 PM
Quote from: kolla;812504
OpenReaction? Did you just make that up right now? :p

Classact works on Aros so I am tempted to test Reaction too just to please you :lol:
Title: Re: Enhancer Software package for PowerPC & 68k
Post by: Terminills on August 13, 2016, 06:54:52 PM
Quote from: OlafS3;812506
Who needs Reaction on Aros? :)

Besides... ClassAct works on Aros so Reaction might too (not tested because almost no software available on 68k)


Only on 68K.   Every other Arch needs a replacement as you very well know.   I have no use for it.  However if someone is so desperate for it they can contribute.
Title: Re: Enhancer Software package for PowerPC & 68k
Post by: OlafS3 on August 13, 2016, 07:07:22 PM
Quote from: Terminills;812508
Only on 68K.   Every other Arch needs a replacement as you very well know.   I have no use for it.  However if someone is so desperate for it they can contribute.

Yes of course but if he is not precise enough it includes 68k branch. So I had to correct him :)
Title: Re: Enhancer Software package for PowerPC & 68k
Post by: wawrzon on August 13, 2016, 09:44:30 PM
Quote from: Terminills;812508
Only on 68K.   Every other Arch needs a replacement as you very well know.   I have no use for it.  However if someone is so desperate for it they can contribute.


id tend to support such a project, though the repository is set up by salass in 2010, and apparently apart of initial commits nothing has been done. now that he is os4 developer/contributor it might be difficult for him to commit to that project in a clean room environment, since he is certainly bound by appropriate agreements such as nda. him contributinghis virtual drive solution  to aros is another matter, that doesnt fall under such restrictions as it is his genuine development afaik.

so, i dont expect any development on this front any soon.
Title: Re: Enhancer Software package for PowerPC & 68k
Post by: kolla on August 13, 2016, 10:47:28 PM
What would make sense is implementing classact, bgui etc libraries and classes in Zune.
Title: Re: Enhancer Software package for PowerPC & 68k
Post by: OlafS3 on August 13, 2016, 10:50:08 PM
Quote from: kolla;812519
What would make sense is implementing classact, bgui etc libraries and classes in Zune.

BGUI library exists in Aros (all versions) already
Title: Re: Enhancer Software package for PowerPC & 68k
Post by: kolla on August 14, 2016, 12:29:10 AM
I know, that's exactly why I mention it, would it not be nice if all BGUI apps adhere to Zune prefs and very much behave like Zune apps? Gtlayout is another candidate.
Title: Re: Enhancer Software package for PowerPC & 68k
Post by: kolla on August 14, 2016, 12:32:50 AM
On a similar note... Remember back in the days when ASL requesters sucked and Reqtool came to rescue with RTpatch? At some point ASL overtook Reqtools and it would be really nice with an aslpatch that hijacks all calls to reqtools et al.
Title: Re: Enhancer Software package for PowerPC & 68k
Post by: paul1981 on August 14, 2016, 02:26:55 AM
Quote from: kolla;812525
On a similar note... Remember back in the days when ASL requesters sucked and Reqtool came to rescue with RTpatch? At some point ASL overtook Reqtools and it would be really nice with an aslpatch that hijacks all calls to reqtools et al.


AmigaOS - Where fantasy becomes reality...

http://m68k.aminet.net/package/util/misc/AslToRT (http://m68k.aminet.net/package/util/misc/AslToRT)

Haven't tried it personally, but author assures us it can do this. I'm happy to use asl and reqtools though. There's prefs programs available for both too. The only one that I have had patched in the past are those prehistoric arp requesters! :laugh1:
Title: Re: Enhancer Software package for PowerPC & 68k
Post by: kolla on August 14, 2016, 04:12:59 PM
Hey, thanks! I have previously looked at it, but only read enough to see it could replace rtpatch, not that it actually can work the other way around. Great! :)
Title: Re: OpenReaction and AROS
Post by: Minuous on August 15, 2016, 03:52:49 AM
Quote from: Terminills;812503
You could contribute to OpenReaction instead of spewing bs about AROS every chance you get.   It's fine if you don't want to but either put up or shut up. =]


Pointing out that it is missing functionality = "spewing bs"!? I don't think so.

It's not my job to fix every problem in AROS. If the goal of AROS becomes full OS3.9 compatibility, I might consider working towards that end. According to http://aros.sourceforge.net/introduction/index.php it's still just targeting OS3.1, and I have no interest in such an obsolete version.

Previously I have decompiled bitmap.image (http://amigan.1emu.net/aw/bitmap.image-src.lha). I am happy for any AROS developer to make use of it. Obviously it can't be incorporated as-is directly into AROS as it would require significant modification or rewriting to be non-infringing of H&P's copyright.
Title: Re: OpenReaction and AROS
Post by: fishy_fiz on August 15, 2016, 10:46:33 AM
If Reaction provided anything of interest there'd have been work on implementing something compatible. It doesnt, so there's been next to nothing done. Simple.

Also, and this has been pointed out many, many times despite being obvious to anyone with the ability to think for themselves "compatible" doesnt mean restricted to.
Title: Re: OpenReaction and AROS
Post by: kolla on August 15, 2016, 01:57:15 PM
To be honest, the lack of Reaction in AROS is rather a plus in my book, I would love to get rid of Reaction in OS3.9 as well. And I suppose that Cloanto agrees with me on that one :)