AO Interview - Dave Haynie

[Druideck]

Sounds like Dave hasn't even tried Morphos,
if he had I think he would be more interested and excited by it. (my opinion)

I think the Amiga feel is captured and enhanced
on the PEG.

Being a long time Amigan I was skeptical until I really seen it in action.  :-D

[Floid]

tormedhammaren said,

Great interview. It's always interesting and funny to hear what Hayz means. He even answered my question.
But this thing shocked me a bit:

"So boy, did I feel stupid, being fooled by a kid, even if, as Skal guesses, he’s from Gypsy blood."

I noticed that myself.  If it's insensitive, try to remember that the whole idea of 'gypsies' is far removed from us Americans; we only get exposed to the stereotype out of fairy tales, or as genealogic trivia over a few beers.  (This coming from a guy who's only knowledge of his ancestors has them as "horse thieves."  A lot can get lost, or just stops mattering after a generation or two.)

So while it'd be great if we'd wake up and remember there's a planet full of people out there, it can easily seem like a vague pejorative to us; same reasoning that makes "raised by wolves" or "born in a barn" seem okay, we don't expect the target groups to exist.  Dumb and probably awful, but people manage to do worse.

Maybe Skal should've known better?

[xisp]

After reading those creepy stories about Commodore and un-released Amigas (A3000p, A1000p, A300...) I made a trip into that historic repository that is  The Dave Haynie Files.

I downloaded the whole 10MB archive and there is a very interesting paper in the /devcon93 folder with some ideas in it about improving the User interface.

There are some already implemented things in hacks and third-party gui toolkits. Major stuff is about enhancing the looks, and there are a lot of details never done before on an Amiga, perhaps on any system. (Menus that transform in windows with controls on it??).

Visions of future from the past...  A future that never happened.

[borchen]

Interesting. I'm not too surprised by his Peggy/MOS comments. He has stated in the past he doesn't have much more than a curiosity towards OS4/A1, so why would he be interested in a variant? His curiosity in OS4 comes from a nostalgia stand point.

This pretty well sums up my point of few towards OS4 and that's why I am going to the BeneluxAmiga Show: I'm just curious (as an ex-Amiga user)

If OS4 turns out to be nice I MIGHT even buy one of those mini-itx AmigaONE's...just for fun....

My opinion about MorphOS (not Pegasos: that's 'just' hardware): it's not real Amiga, just as WinUAE is not (ow...I feel flames/trolls coming)  ;-)

As someone that's looking into the today Amiga-market (or what's left of it) it's plain SILLY that it's divided into two camps...it's like two dogs fighting for 1 small crumb of food...and both starving...

I also understand that OS4 is not going to run on a Pegasos-board: another SILLY thing...

If things continue like this both AmigaONE/OS4 and MorphOS/Pegasos are going down the drain... :-(

This is just my humble opinion....

[logicalheart]

WONDERFUL!  Thank you, it was great to read it, and I'm saving, printing, and spreading copies.  Yay!

[Tension]

This threead made for very interestin reading.

Is there a way to see the original interview, as the links are all broken (probably stuck on Xoops)

[Matt_H]

I hope this got migrated to the new system, but there's the Wayback Machine in the meantime.

[Karlos]

I hope this got migrated to the new system, but there's the Wayback Machine in the meantime.

I'm not sure if it did as the link still points to an old xoops article id. As a rule, the migration scripts updated links in posts to point to the correct place after stuff was imported.

[drHirudo]

This threead made for very interestin reading.

Is there a way to see the original interview, as the links are all broken (probably stuck on Xoops)

There is new interview with Dave Haynie in the latest Amiga Future magazine. I read it and it is very interesting - he talks about how he got involved with the Amiga, what projects they had and what got on hold by the Commodore managers. It is much more recent than the one linked here.

[yogisumo]

I can't read this.  Tried both Firefox and Chrome.

The requested URL /modules/sections/index.php was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

[Karlos]

I can't read this.  Tried both Firefox and Chrome.

The requested URL /modules/sections/index.php was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

See here:

I'm not sure if it did as the link still points to an old xoops article id. As a rule, the migration scripts updated links in posts to point to the correct place after stuff was imported.

[persia]

There's an American bloke working here who has Romani blood in him, so it can't be so rare as that or were all the American Gypsies driven force driven to Oz?

tormedhammaren said,
I noticed that myself.  If it's insensitive, try to remember that the whole idea of 'gypsies' is far removed from us Americans; we only get exposed to the stereotype out of fairy tales, or as genealogic trivia over a few beers.  (This coming from a guy who's only knowledge of his ancestors has them as "horse thieves."  A lot can get lost, or just stops mattering after a generation or two.)

So while it'd be great if we'd wake up and remember there's a planet full of people out there, it can easily seem like a vague pejorative to us; same reasoning that makes "raised by wolves" or "born in a barn" seem okay, we don't expect the target groups to exist.  Dumb and probably awful, but people manage to do worse.

Maybe Skal should've known better?

[kolla]

There's an American bloke working here who has Romani blood in him, so it can't be so rare as that or were all the American Gypsies driven force driven to Oz?

You are aware that you here directed questions to a posting that is more than 7 years old? :laughing:

[persia]

Who last checked the board 22/06/10, so it's possible he'll see the message!

You are aware that you here directed questions to a posting that is more than 7 years old? :laughing: