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Title: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: bernd_afa on April 13, 2010, 10:11:36 AM
http://amidevcpp.amiga-world.de/AfA_Binaries/AfA_OS_V4_7.lha

AFA OS can install on any existing AOS 3.1 upto 3.9 install and any BBx updates and overwrite no Files of your AOS install.

It offer then many new Features.Because AOS source is not here, there is AROS source use and it is modify to reach best compatibility.

Changes for this version:

  Modified the icon_lib.exe to support Peter Keunecke iconlib V46.4.133 and
  newer, for that i moved the address of the structure up because Peters library
  need 2kB.
  Also the AmigaOS icon.library form the ROM or Libs: is now used to display the
  icons with <=15Bit Workbenchscreens, so you see the icons again.
  And all programs that have built in icons like KingCon work now without extern
  icons, i thank Peter Keunecke for his help.

  Extend intuition_lib.exe to support the following frameiclasses with the
  Zune-Skinsystem:
       FRAME_PROPBORDER (compatible with OS4 API)
       FRAME_PROPKNOB (compatible with OS4 API)
       FRAME_DISPLAYBOX (compatible with OS4 API)
       FRAME_WINDOW
       FRAME_PAGE
       FRAME_GROUP
       FRAME_REQUESTER
       IA_Orientation (compatible with OS4 API) is used to rotate the sliders.
  Bumped revision to 88 to identify this changes.

  Wawa added window gadgets code for screen depths <=15Bit, a known problem is
  that the size gadget is not always correct centered.

  Fixed a redraw problem that happend with FinalData and a gadget text problem
  that happend with FinalWriter. Also fixed a Enforcer Hit that occurs while
  resizing an ASL requester that is partly hidden under 3 or 4 windows and MCP
  "solid window sizing" was active.

  Changed OM_SET of picture_datatype.exe that its always return 0 to prevent a
  double redraw of the image with WarpDatatypes and prevent the crash that
  happend with the PPC versions, thanks go to Oliver Roberts for his help.
  Also bumped Version to 46.9 so WarpDatatypes from Oliver Roberts support the
  alpha channel, because beginning with that versions number the OS4
  picture.datatype fully supports the alpha channel.

  Thomas Klein modified the AfA_OS_Loader to check for existence of the
  afa_system_lib.exe file instead of only the default directory or Assign. This
  helps to prevent a lock of that directory and let AfA_OS start if the default
  directory exists but the files are in the AfA_OS_Libs: Assign. Bumped version
  to 3.0.

  Thomas Klein wrote a new installer script that now full support AmiKit-systems
  and don't overwrite directory icons anymore. It also has a conflict handling
  for AfA_OS updates, installed with the old script on Amikit-systems >=v1.2.0.
  Bumped version to 2.0.
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: AmiKit on April 13, 2010, 12:26:05 PM
I love AfA OS. Thank you and congratulations!
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: mfilos on April 13, 2010, 01:13:39 PM
Outstanding! I also love AfA OS! Looking forward to update my 4.6 one :)

Cheers Bernd
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: ChaosLord on April 13, 2010, 01:20:33 PM
Thank you Bernd and everyone who helped make this!  Amiga community loves you! :knuddel:
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: Tumbleweed on April 13, 2010, 05:01:13 PM
Truly magnificent Bernd! It is developers like you that help to keep AOS3.x alive.

Weed
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: Karlos on April 13, 2010, 05:06:08 PM
What sort of installation space is needed? I'd like to try this in my "OS in RAD". Need to know how much to increase the ram disk by.
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: bernd_afa on April 13, 2010, 05:34:26 PM
Quote from: Karlos;553349
What sort of installation space is needed? I'd like to try this in my "OS in RAD". Need to know how much to increase the ram disk by.


uncompress all is near 4 megaybte in size(skins are largest), but in rad not test if it work.I think you need do 2. reboot, so the AOS ROM libraries pos and neg size is increase to to add new functions
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: Gulliver on April 13, 2010, 06:19:18 PM
Thank you Bernd and all the others involved!
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: HammerD on April 13, 2010, 07:42:14 PM
Thank you Bernd, really great work.  I didn't mention to you before, but there is a problem with one of the icons being over-written on Remote Desktop's connection bar, but I will check if it still exists with AFA_OS 4.7.

Keep up the nice work :)
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: Karlos on April 13, 2010, 08:10:16 PM
Quote from: bernd_afa;553351
uncompress all is near 4 megaybte in size(skins are largest), but in rad not test if it work.I think you need do 2. reboot, so the AOS ROM libraries pos and neg size is increase to to add new functions


Well, RAM space isn't much of a problem, I have 256MB of it :-)
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: Vulture on April 14, 2010, 01:46:36 PM
Many thx Bernd! :)
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: bernd_afa on April 14, 2010, 05:14:55 PM
Quote from: HammerD;553362
Thank you Bernd, really great work.  I didn't mention to you before, but there is a problem with one of the icons being over-written on Remote Desktop's connection bar, but I will check if it still exists with AFA_OS 4.7.

Keep up the nice work :)


You mean that the Icon of the AFA_OS_Libs drawer is overwritten when you have change the Icon on your system ?

That should be fixed see in history.
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: MozzerFan on April 15, 2010, 01:27:04 AM
Thanks for the update Bernd !!!
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: LoadWB on April 20, 2010, 07:07:07 AM
I am trying to keep my cluttered Amiga installation, which has followed me for probably 15 years now from one computer to the next.  If AfA_OS works as described, and I have no reason to doubt it will, I should not ever need to uninstall it.  However, if I needed to do so, it appears from what I read that uninstallation is easy and clean.  Is this a correct assumption?
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: mfilos on April 20, 2010, 07:47:56 AM
Very correct mate.
You just delete the folder that you've installed AfA_OS, you also remove the AfA_OS_Libs folder, C:Morelibspace and C:AfA_OS_Loader (along with their declarations from S-S), the TTF Fonts installed and the skins from Presets iirc. That's all :)
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: LoadWB on April 20, 2010, 04:22:17 PM
Quote from: mfilos;554524
Very correct mate.
You just delete the folder that you've installed AfA_OS, you also remove the AfA_OS_Libs folder, C:Morelibspace and C:AfA_OS_Loader (along with their declarations from S-S), the TTF Fonts installed and the skins from Presets iirc. That's all :)


Excellent.  It does help keep my clutter to a minimum.  (I meant to say I was trying to keep my 15 year old installation uncluttered.  Ah, well!)  I think I'll take the leap tonight and install it.  Is anyone aware of any conflicts or issues with wedges like PowerIcons, IconBFast, etc?  I assume (again) the functionality of AfA_OS replaces that of PowerIcons.
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: wawrzon on April 20, 2010, 05:20:56 PM
powericons is to show png icons? if so then yes, btw just read the included doku. anyway i would make a backup of this 15 years old install, if i was you.
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: LoadWB on April 20, 2010, 05:40:15 PM
Quote from: wawrzon;554588
powericons is to show png icons? if so then yes, btw just read the included doku. anyway i would make a backup of this 15 years old install, if i was you.


I have backups, I just hate having to restore them :)  Anyway, I have been reading the documentation, but lately my mental prowess has been near nill.  Probably not the best time to implement new things, but I am compelled to keep from being bored.
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: wawrzon on April 20, 2010, 05:50:00 PM
you dont even need to deinstall it, simply comment out the afa_os_loader from your startup sequence, if you dont like afa, and all is back to normal. i would recommend to run powerwindows along with it.
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: radzik on April 20, 2010, 07:15:06 PM
Older versions not working with Tornado3D (v. 2.1 and 3.0), what about 4.7? Has someone tested it?
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: bernd_afa on April 21, 2010, 05:29:32 PM
Quote from: radzik;554605
Older versions not working with Tornado3D (v. 2.1 and 3.0), what about 4.7? Has someone tested it?


>Older versions not working with Tornado3D (v. 2.1 and 3.0), what about 4.7? Has >someone tested it?

does tornada work stable on your system, no random crash ?

Do you get with AFA messages as mem corrupt or something ?

AFA do check if memaddress is correct for freemem if not it stop the task, older AOS does silently free mem but amiga crash sooner or later total.

tornado 3d is know as buggy.

http://eabmobile.abime.net/showthread.php?t=19733

maybe you try out memtrailer from aminet, that add cookies around a memalloc, maybe this work better.
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: radzik on April 21, 2010, 07:01:04 PM
It's look like this:

http://picasaweb.google.pl/radzikPL/Tornado3D#5462651454081319282

There are no buttons.

Should look like this:

http://obligement.free.fr/gfx/tornado2se.jpg

Tornado 3D 2.1 is quite stable (both on 060, 603 and WinUAE).
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: bernd_afa on April 23, 2010, 04:05:35 PM
Quote from: radzik;554765
It's look like this:

http://picasaweb.google.pl/radzikPL/Tornado3D#5462651454081319282

There are no buttons.

Should look like this:

http://obligement.free.fr/gfx/tornado2se.jpg

Tornado 3D 2.1 is quite stable (both on 060, 603 and WinUAE).


That look as some prefs files are not load.Are you sure it is a AFA Problem ?
when you boot without AFA (press left or mid mouse during boot)then all look same as the screenshot ?

maybe you look on snoopdos if there is something diffrent.
but AFA do nothing change in file system or paths
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: radzik on April 23, 2010, 06:36:28 PM
It's AFA. On my A2000 with AFA Tornado3D have the same problem. When I uninstall AFA Tornado3D works as should.
Title: WB3.5 icon transparencies
Post by: LoadWB on April 24, 2010, 02:32:35 AM
I noticed since installing AfA, 3.5 icons no longer have a transparency when dragging or when missing a matching .info (RAmiga-+ view in drawers.)

My LoadWB command does not have simplegels set, which if I understand correctly causes this in a standard installation.

Is this normal behavior?

EDIT: Before I get jumped, this may have been a feature of PowerIcons.  I am going to go check on some documentation -- it has been so long since I ran a vanilla installation of OS3.9 I simply cannot remember.
Title: Re: WB3.5 icon transparencies
Post by: bernd_afa on April 24, 2010, 11:03:06 AM
Quote from: LoadWB;555185
I noticed since installing AfA, 3.5 icons no longer have a transparency when dragging or when missing a matching .info (RAmiga-+ view in drawers.)

My LoadWB command does not have simplegels set, which if I understand correctly causes this in a standard installation.

Is this normal behavior?

EDIT: Before I get jumped, this may have been a feature of PowerIcons.  I am going to go check on some documentation -- it has been so long since I ran a vanilla installation of OS3.9 I simply cannot remember.


3.5 Icons have no transparency, also on powericons not.powericons also do not show PNG icons during drag(show a box)

>It's AFA. On my A2000 with AFA Tornado3D have the same problem. When I uninstall AFA >Tornado3D works as should.

can you post snoopdos log ?
its really strange wy the layout of your tornado windows are diffrent.
is there a Demo Version of tornado3d here, so i can test ?
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: radzik on April 24, 2010, 12:15:15 PM
Quote from: bernd_afa;555216
can you post snoopdos log ?
its really strange wy the layout of your tornado windows are diffrent.
is there a Demo Version of tornado3d here, so i can test ?

AFA was on on AmiKIT, and off on ClassicWB. Tornado3D v.2.1. I tried to find Tornado3D demo, but it's impossible to find it...
Title: Re: WB3.5 icon transparencies
Post by: LoadWB on April 24, 2010, 04:42:37 PM
Quote from: bernd_afa;555216
3.5 Icons have no transparency


Yup.  I found that in the PowerIcons docs that it gives transparency to 3.5 while dragging, and also gives transparency to def icons.  I kinda liked that.
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: bernd_afa on April 24, 2010, 06:33:07 PM
Quote from: radzik;555217
AFA was on on AmiKIT, and off on ClassicWB. Tornado3D v.2.1. I tried to find Tornado3D demo, but it's impossible to find it...


I see on your log that there should something load with newicon.library
I think this you need remove.What AOS you have ?

newicon.library is obsolete when you have OS3.5 and higher because this OS can show newicons with the Icon library.also AFA can show this newicons
 
""""
newicon.library            Open            gadgets/gad.0000.info                                                          Read           OK  
newicon.library            *Open           gadgets/gad.0000.info                                                          Read           OK  
newicon.library            Lock            gadgets/gad.0000                                                               Read           Fail
newicon.library            *Lock           gadgets/gad.0000                                                               Read           Fail
n
       
""""

i see on your other log file, there is no entrie of newicon.library

>Yup. I found that in the PowerIcons docs that it gives transparency to 3.5 while >dragging, and also gives transparency to def icons. I kinda liked that.

I see only this in powericon readme (latest 1.06 Version Aminet)

""""
Once installed and launched correctly, PowerIcons adds transparent support
  for PNG icons to the standard icon.library API. This means that you will be
  able to fully handle PNG icons just as if they were standard Amiga icons.

.....

Since Workbench uses internal planar routines for icon dragging, it wasn't
  possible to have it dragging true color imagery. A

......

Old-style amiga icons (planar icons) are simply NOT patched by choice.
  No true-color remapping or ghost effect is applied in the case such an ugly
  old icon is encountered and it will be passed to the original DrawIconState()
  as it is.                                                                  


""""

SO no transparent 3.5 Icons and that powericons do no true color remapping is the reason that AFA iconlib is fastest, because no Pen remapping is need
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: radzik on April 25, 2010, 07:25:17 PM
Quote from: bernd_afa;555242
I see on your log that there should something load with newicon.library
I think this you need remove.What AOS you have ?

I check it. I have OS 3.9 on my A2000, on AmiKIT 3.9 too. ClassicWB is 3.1.
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: cha05e90 on May 08, 2010, 07:00:04 PM
Since AfA is able to render OS4.x icons on OS3.9 - is there any chance to save/export this icon image data under OS3.x/68k? Saving as PNG (icon/image) would be great? Is there any tool I could use to do this? RAWInfo (patched AfA version) doesn't save anything - not even ILBM. I search for a OS3.x/68k capable solution...
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: radzik on May 19, 2010, 12:59:58 PM
Quote from: radzik;555350
I check it. I have OS 3.9 on my A2000, on AmiKIT 3.9 too. ClassicWB is 3.1.

So I've installed AfA OS on my A2000 with 3.9. Works perfect (even AmigaWriter has got polish fonts! :)), but Tornado3D have same problem as in AmiKIT (without AfA OS works good). :(
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: bernd_afa on September 12, 2010, 11:02:50 AM
Quote from: radzik;559519
So I've installed AfA OS on my A2000 with 3.9. Works perfect (even AmigaWriter has got polish fonts! :)), but Tornado3D have same problem as in AmiKIT (without AfA OS works good). :(


here write a user in german that amikit (that contain AFA) and tornado 3d work well, when install it and set tooltype PPC to no.

http://www.amiga-news.de/forum/thread.php?id=33342&BoardID=6
Title: Re: AFA OS 4.7 release
Post by: radzik on September 12, 2010, 01:13:30 PM
Tornado will not work on 68k system if PPC tooltype is ON.