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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #74 from previous page: September 23, 2011, 05:30:03 PM »
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(And, psst, here's a hint: "Commodore OS" will be re-skinned Linux. There's no mystery about that, no matter how much dammy insists otherwise.)

Was it not eventually confirmed that Commodore OS was going to be a customised Linux Mint distro?

Edit: Yep, Linux Mint 10 and/or 11... http://www.commodore-amiga.org/forum/6-commodore-os-software-development/1254-commodore-os-questions?limit=15&start=225&lang=en#8559
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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #75 on: September 23, 2011, 05:40:44 PM »
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I am not at liberty to explain it but there are some massive pieces to this puzzle you haven't heard about, yet.


You've been saying that for over a year now.
 

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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #76 on: September 23, 2011, 05:44:28 PM »
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You've been saying that for over a year now.
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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #77 on: September 23, 2011, 05:55:50 PM »
I like how Commodore USA's phone number is shared with Barry's other businesses. Their fax number is also shared with his wife.

It's convenient for those times when you want to order a C64x, a Tuscany 22" bathroom vanity, and schedule an appointment with a psychotherapist all at the same time.

No other PC manufacturer can offer you this kind of service.
 

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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #78 on: September 23, 2011, 07:47:50 PM »
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By your logic a boxed Apple Lisa or to go further back a mint Altair are far, far better computers than the Amiga.

(Hint: it has nothing - zero - to do with what the real world will pay for Amiga-one systems from the year 2000.  People from "outside" aren't flocking in and driving up the prices of A1 gear, it's all churn from about 1500 users and nothing more.  Hype and Amiga Inc set the price and Amigoids are struggling to recoup their losses investment, and they sell to other Amigoids.  Take a box of SAM boards to your local computer sale/show, and I promise you ain't gonna sell out of 'em.)


You can't deny though that my AmigaOne from 2005 or whatever is a million times more useful with current software for its OS than a PC from the same era.
I didn't say which was better, just that a PC will get obsolete a lot faster.
And of course if you go to a local computer show, you won't sell out fast.... but the world is a lot bigger than that. If you go to the open market like eBay, you WILL sell out at far higher prices than a PC would command.

However you cut it, you can't deny that the value of a 6 year old Amiga is worth more than a 6-year old PC - whatever the reason. Equally a $25K PC will be worth less in 5 years time than a $2K Amiga.
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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #79 on: September 23, 2011, 08:34:53 PM »
There are, Moochie knocked over the table and some of the pieces went under the couch, back by that piece of pizza that was dropped last year.  And -oh, did the pizza move?  I swear it moved!  

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You've been saying that for over a year now.
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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #80 on: September 23, 2011, 09:04:16 PM »
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You can't deny though that my AmigaOne from 2005 or whatever is a million times more useful with current software for its OS than a PC from the same era.


Hm, yeah, I can.  I used a 2005 era PC up until about a year and change ago and I did plenty an AmigaOne couldn't.  It also had:

Working USB2
Working DMA
Multiple OSes I could install on it (including in VMs)

etc. etc.

But whatever; Amigoids won't be shaken in their faith, so we move on...
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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #81 on: September 23, 2011, 09:08:58 PM »
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No, starting is about $2000 (AIO) which is cheaper then what is being offered in multi-core by A-EON.  If you go with bang:buck ratio against A-EON, it's not even close.



What Barry is aiming for with the Commodore Amiga is the professional level.  That means it has to have the gear and software that industry uses as standard.  Yes, multi media is the niche he is aiming for as video production for the web is going to be a long term demand.


Oh be quiet, C-USA "Amiga" = bog standard Wintel motherboard rubbish.....something anyone can build themselves. Bang for buck you machines are worthless doorstops compared to an xbox 360 motherboard for $79 if we are making ludicrous irrelevant comparisons. :roflmao:
 

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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #82 on: September 23, 2011, 10:19:39 PM »
If you make quick calculations, you realize any of us (almost) could do exactly what C=USA is doing.

-Buying low end PCs with some mainstream peripherals: CHEAP
-Sending a prototype of C64 casing to china and buy a couple hundreds made by some plastic factory that would take any contract: CHEAP
-Making an ugly & simple website: FREE

Add linux and a C64 emulator and after only a couple of thousand bucks you got yourself a computer business that can be run from your basement.

So Dammy please get back in the REAL world, this company is not serious at all.  You can't just take a common product and PATCH a Commodore or Amiga sticker on it.

C=USA, If you can't create something different than a PC in disguise, leave the brand alone!
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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #83 on: September 23, 2011, 11:25:38 PM »
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C=USA, If you can't create something different than a PC in disguise, leave the brand alone!


Why?  They own it.  It belongs to them.  They can do whatever they wish with it.  Offer them $m and I'm sure you can become its spiritual defender.  

(Note this is not an endorsement of the pricing insanity or Barry's erratic behavior.)
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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #84 on: September 23, 2011, 11:29:27 PM »
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"Resurrection?" If by that you mean a "shambling, decaying mockery of what was once a living thing" kind of resurrection, I suppose you could say that:


Its sad so many people don`t know of MorphOS and AmigaOS 4 some will eve buy that "zombification"

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As you could see from latest masterplans they will have Mints Commodore OEM editions, so after Workbench V debackle even the CommodoreOS name is changed. Sounds like everything is insecure with CUSA :laughing:

As with Commodore64x only "seeing is believeing" and so far they have managed to produce 1 case as somethig new. WhateverOS will be their next real endavour beside glossy websites and big words.
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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #85 on: September 23, 2011, 11:51:31 PM »
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Well, technically they'll start at only $5000.

When I read that link I really was shocked! There are companies that buy computers at that price point, and if that's CUSA's target market then they should examine the reasons why companies buy those computers. It's not because of feelings of nostalgia.

Yes there are, and they are usually called a "BOXX" workstation.

But these actually have some value, do stuff.
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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #86 on: September 24, 2011, 12:14:58 AM »
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I like how Commodore USA's phone number is shared with Barry's other businesses. Their fax number is also shared with his wife.

It's convenient for those times when you want to order a C64x, a Tuscany 22" bathroom vanity, and schedule an appointment with a psychotherapist all at the same time.

No other PC manufacturer can offer you this kind of service.


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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #87 on: September 24, 2011, 12:25:36 AM »
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Why?  They own it.  It belongs to them.  They can do whatever they wish with it.  Offer them $m and I'm sure you can become its spiritual defender.  

(Note this is not an endorsement of the pricing insanity or Barry's erratic behavior.)


They don't own it.