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You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« on: September 22, 2011, 01:48:05 PM »
http://www.commodore-amiga.org/forum/27-commodore-usa/8551-phone-call-with-barry?lang=en#8569

Compared to the $25,000 they'll want for a CUSA "Amiga PC" it's pocket change.
 

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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2011, 01:54:26 PM »
Well, technically they'll start at only $5000.

When I read that link I really was shocked! There are companies that buy computers at that price point, and if that's CUSA's target market then they should examine the reasons why companies buy those computers. It's not because of feelings of nostalgia.
 

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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2011, 02:10:56 PM »
Barry's been hitting the hard stuff.  WTH is he thinking?  Prosumer?  With a brand known for cheapness?  And he wants to sell them US$25K keyboard computers?

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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2011, 02:18:02 PM »
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Barry's been hitting the hard stuff.  WTH is he thinking?


Probably something along the lines of, "I've only sold 200 or so of these cheap <$1000 pieces of junk, if I can sell just 200 of these $20,000 pieces of junk we're talking some real money!"
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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2011, 02:18:29 PM »
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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2011, 03:28:44 PM »
I used to think Barry was a scammer, now I see he's just completely delusional.
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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2011, 03:38:14 PM »
@thread

what's wrong with you guys? bazza is a business genius. he sold 100.000s of his C64x.  his products are all over major retailers like best buy.  he's 'living a fairy tale' life.  he flits about on private jets and helicopters, helping americans understand how to create jobs.  he's going to bring the amiga back, smite dell and HP, and deliver the greatest operating system known to mankind, no doubt based on L4 or QNX or something exotic!  read all about it on commodore-amiga.org -- so the world may know!

he is the messiah!! all bow down at the engineering and commercial genius of bazza!!!

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sorry. some of the utter falsehoods that nutter is spewing is absurd. and that randy believes him. :roflmao:

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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2011, 04:06:38 PM »
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Well, technically they'll start at only $5000.


No, starting is about $2000 (AIO) which is cheaper then what is being offered in multi-core by A-EON.  If you go with bang:buck ratio against A-EON, it's not even close.

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When I read that link I really was shocked! There are companies that buy computers at that price point, and if that's CUSA's target market then they should examine the reasons why companies buy those computers. It's not because of feelings of nostalgia.


What Barry is aiming for with the Commodore Amiga is the professional level.  That means it has to have the gear and software that industry uses as standard.  Yes, multi media is the niche he is aiming for as video production for the web is going to be a long term demand.
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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2011, 04:25:11 PM »
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sorry. some of the utter falsehoods that nutter is spewing is absurd. and that randy believes him. :roflmao:

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Like you have a clue on what you are talking about.
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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2011, 04:26:07 PM »
Seriouslt: what is C=USA's USP? There'd have to be a really good one to tempt any businesses away from the established brands (Dell, HP etc). The Commodore name means nothing to businesses since the 1970's (ask any IT manager), so what's the plan?

A new company with no proven record has zero chance without a USP, and presumably C=USA realise this.... what is it? The only USP I can see so far is a ridiculous price tag...?
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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2011, 04:26:23 PM »
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No, starting is about $2000 (AIO) which is cheaper then what is being offered in multi-core by A-EON.  If you go with bang:buck ratio against A-EON, it's not even close.
So you're trying to argue for ultra-high-end commodity hardware on the basis that it's more cost-efficient than an ultra-niche market specialty board? Maybe you can start a program to provide discount snow to underprivileged penguins, while you're at it.
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What Barry is aiming for with the Commodore Amiga is the professional level.  That means it has to have the gear and software that industry uses as standard.  Yes, multi media is the niche he is aiming for as video production for the web is going to be a long term demand.
Yes, he's said as much. What we're wondering about is by what twists and turns of his very unique brand of logic he's arrived at the conclusion that high-end professional graphics workstations are the kind of thing people buy based on nostalgia from a company that can't even figure out how to properly cool a keyboard computer without constant input from end-users.
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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2011, 06:04:18 PM »
I must admit that I would be quite happy about all of this if the new "Commodore Amiga" used Silicon Integrated Nanophotonics technology for the chips, Coriolis fans for cooling, MRAM for memory, blueray optical drives, thunderbolt ports .....

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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2011, 06:12:48 PM »
Hahahaha... Is this guy on drugs ?

Who wants to buy that crap then ? ... Hahahaha... Reality is harsh sometimes but NO ONE and NO COMPANY would buy those things. Think i just wet my pants laughing :')

Anyway ... For his languese he should have a punch in his face. Think his rude !
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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2011, 06:23:21 PM »
One of my other hobbies is home theater and I can tell you now the case they are using is nowhere close to $1000. I looked into buying that exact case for a home theater project and the price I got was somewhere around $100+shipping if I remember correctly. I imagine if bought in larger qualities then the buyer would receive a discount. If he's paying these outrageous prices for parts he's doomed.