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Re: apple great desing
« on: September 17, 2012, 04:10:21 PM »
I have an HTC phone with a bigger screen and faster CPU than an iphone, a Nexus 7 tablet, etc.

No Apple gear in my house.

Steve Jobs was an awful, awful person and there's no way I'd willingly and directly line his coffers further.

As an actual computing enthusiast there's nothing Apple has to offer me.  Despite stealing an open-source OS their works are closed up tighter than a snake's butt, both software and hardware wise.  Especially hardware wise.  Once upon a time, Apple made stuff you could tinker in and get expansions for.  But then, I dunno, around '84 or so Jobs took the brown acid and started turning out hermetically sealed computers and physically threatening engineers to tried to make the original Mac expandable.  Apple fired his child-neglecting ass and released the Macintosh-II and other systems with actual expandability.  Then he came back, slobbered all over Ive's Little Blue Toilet and the rest is history.

Fun facts: he demanded some expensive-as-hell motorcycle and piano be put on display in the main Apple campus supposedly as examples of great design (excuse me, desing) but the truth was the motorcycle was there because he broke the clutch cable because he didn't know how to ride a performance bike and he pushed it into the lobby in a fit of pique, then convinced himself he could be a piano virtuoso and when that didn't work out had the piano dumped there next to it.  As a matter of course he always parked in the handicapped spots next to the front door because, hey, "**** you I'm Steve Jobs".  Nobody in his entire ******* company had the guts to stand up for someone who might actually need the spot and call the cops to have him towed or even ticketed.

He raped Wozniak's ideas time and again, ripped Wozniak off, and once Woz hit a bad time due to his plane crash injuries Jobs actually physically threw him out of the company.  One of Jobs' first acts as Apple Dictator For Life (well...his life!) when he came back to the company was to end all contributions by Apple to various charities.

Jobs wasn't an ******* he was the ******* and I won't have a dime of my money directly going to his legacy.  Oh and before anyone says YEAH BUT HE WAS SUCCESSFUL AND WELL KNOWN THE WORLD OVER so was Charles Manson and that's not precisely what I'd consider admirable behavior.
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Re: apple great desing
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2012, 04:34:33 PM »
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Made my day! :)

Thanks!

You're quite welcome.  I really, really don't ****ing well like Steve Jobs.  At.  All.  In a better world, Microsoft would have let them die in the 1990s.
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Re: apple great desing
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2012, 04:39:06 PM »
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My iPhone has likely begun it's journey out of China sunday.  This is exciting!


How fun!  A lump of inert plastic made by wage slaves (literally, slaves) gets to leave an oppressive totalitarian dictatorship and come to a free society so you can be Mayor of Starbucks on Foursquare, and post Twitter updates from The Gap, meanwhile the people who made it at gunpoint get to make another 99,999 this month in a factory with bars over the windows and suicide prevention nets over the factory floor.

Go you!
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Re: apple great desing
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2012, 11:12:32 PM »
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I don't think you are doing the man justice. Steve Jobs was no villain.


Yes he ****ing well was.
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Re: apple great desing
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2012, 05:48:49 AM »
If there's anyone you should "worship" when it comes to modern computing, its these people:

Alan Turing
Grace Hopper
Douglas Engelbart

People like that.  Real pioneers.

And that's it.

I'd say something of a slur about Jobs being a mere fashion designer but for chrissake he wasn't even that.  Johnathan Ive kept Apple afloat with it's little plastic knickknacks, Jobs just gobbled it up and occasionally screamed at people over color shades or angles of a given piece of plastic.

Meanwhile, this interface we're all using?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfIgzSoTMOs

1968.  Not 1986.  Not 1984.  Hell, not even 1980.  Nineteen sixty-eight.  Before NASA was sent men to the moon with a digital computer with less computing power than the first kit 8-bit computers from the mid '80s, Engelbart took a book titled As We May Think and moved the desktop from Memex Workstation to computerized metaphor.

The rest, as they say, is history.

Steve Jobs has no place in that arc of brilliance.  He was a whining salesman with a sadistic, hateful streak a mile wide who wouldn't cross the road to piss on his own mother if she were on fire.
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Re: apple great desing
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2012, 06:09:09 AM »
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I'm really glad they took the idea from XEROX.


Check your computing history: Xerox put the Alto on sale in 1973, a decade prior to the Lisa.  They released the Xerox Star four years prior to the Macintosh.

The shouting, bespectacled Big Brother in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/OYecfV3ubP8

...speaks of "a garden of pure Ideology".  Now you tell me if that doesn't sound like the entirely closed off "world" of iDevices and the AppStore, where Apple will kick handicapped children if it suits them

One more note about Xerox: they gave the Alto and later Star away to schools that just asked for them.  Apple dropped all charitable offerings on Jobs' orders when he came back.
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Re: apple great desing
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2012, 02:26:35 PM »
Why not read the words of the people who were actually there?

Or as suggested watch Pirates of Silicon Valley?

And in case you doubt the veracity of Pirates..., listen to what Steve Wozniak had to say about it.

So delightful scenes where he physically assaults a programmer who'd worked for over a full day (not a full work day, 24+ hours)?  Yeah, happened.  Throwing Woz out of the company?  Happened.  Mentally abusing an engineer applying for a job? (the infamous "Are you a virgin" scene)?  Happened.  Denying paternity not once but time and again up to the point where he went to court and testified that he was impotent so he wouldn't have to pay a single dime to support that little girl?  YEAH, HAPPENED.  

**** you if you're going to sit there and try to defend Steve Jobs.  There's tons of evidence to back up the fact that he was an *******, and there's no changing that.  Facts are stubborn things.
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