AmigaKit Secures AMITCP 4 Distribution Agreement

[mfilos]

How does AmiTCP 4 compare to the latest Roadshow, in features and performance?

I also don't know as I haven't tried Roadshow yet, but in a thread over EAB Jens replied the following:

I also thought that Roadshow is faster, but AmiTCP kicks Roadshow's ass if you tweak cache sizes the same way.

Jens

[nicholas]

I also don't know as I haven't tried Roadshow yet, but in a thread over EAB Jens replied the following:

Interesting!

[amigakit]

@Matt_H

If Genesis or another GUI is part of the deal, that would be a big advantage.

Thats the point: EasyNet replaces Genesis completely with new modern features such as Wireless Network Scanning, SMB connections, VNC etc

@MFilos @rockape

Many thanks!

[TCMSLP]

Any suggestions of price?   Will NSDI continue to support it?   I'm guessing further development is out of the question.  So, Roadshow will continue to be the only actively developed stack?

I'm asking as I intend to purchase one or the other, just weighing up the advantages/disadvantages.

Great news though

[LoadWB]

At the very least this is an opportunity for some who have a copy of AmiTCP 4 to go legit.  I am intrigued by Jen's comment on performance, and considering that AmiTCP seems to be rather mature I don't see its development status as an issue.  EasyNet's wireless capabilities have piqued my curiosity, as well, as I have a 1200 which could be more easily portable with wireless scanning and configuration.

[Duce]

Just curious what wireless security protocols/standards AmiTCP 4.0 supports?  Considering picking up another legacy, big box Amiga but I absolutely need WEP/WEP2 support out of a TCP stack.

Cheers in advance,
Duce

[amigakit]

@TCMSLP

We will be providing support and we will be further developing components.

[mfilos]

It's not a matter of AmiTCP but of the WiFi Ethernet driver.
For example Neil's prism2 driver supports WEP/WPA2 just fine. Most of us use it already with MiamiDx, AmiTCP, Genesis etc.

[amigakit]

@MFilos

Every EasyNet wireless package we sell, a percentage in revenue goes back to Neil to pay him for his work and to encourage further development of the driver: you may have noticed the new v2.5 revision out last week from him.

New wireless features in EasyNet which are not available through the Aminet packages.

[takemehomegrandma]

I also don't know as I haven't tried Roadshow yet, but in a thread over EAB Jens replied the following:

Quote:

I also thought that Roadshow is faster, but AmiTCP kicks Roadshow's ass if you tweak cache sizes the same way.

Jens

I'm a little curious about that, since the old version of MorphOS's native Netstack that was based on AmiTCP 4 (before MorphOS 3.2 was released, that introduced an updated Netstack built on a newer FreeBSD code base), was noticeably outperformed by Roadshow 68k.

I think it would be interesting to see some real, measured and verified benchmarks between AmiTCP 4 and Roadshow. Is there any?

[mfilos]

Well done Matthew I didn't know about that detail! Kudos!
In fact I was curious how you managed to make some things that can't be done on the free packages like Wireless network scanning.

I can't wait testing your product.

@takemehomegrandma
Indeed that would be nice. Jens was gathering info from users of Roadshow, AmiTCP, Miami, Genesis etc in this EAB thread:
http://eab.abime.net/request-other/69767-network-performance-tests.html

Never tried the tweaks like: TCP_SendSpace=16384 and TCP_RecvSpace=16384 but will surely gief it a try once EasyNet arrives

[pVC]

I'm a little curious about that, since the old version of MorphOS's native Netstack that was based on AmiTCP 4 (before MorphOS 3.2 was released, that introduced an updated Netstack built on a newer FreeBSD code base), was noticeably outperformed by Roadshow 68k.

Although that wasn't the case with all setups...

I think it would be interesting to see some real, measured and verified benchmarks between AmiTCP 4 and Roadshow. Is there any?

That's quite difficult to make. Firstly would you like LAN speeds or internet. In LAN you might get somehow comparable results, but there might not be much differences finally. And internet is quite versatile nowadays.. it's hard to make any real world tests. You never know what kind of routes data comes and is for example window scaling or other new feature needed for the best speed etc...

[LoadWB]

And internet is quite versatile nowadays.. it's hard to make any real world tests. You never know what kind of routes data comes and is for example window scaling or other new feature needed for the best speed etc...

I think you meant "volatile," but I get your meaning nonetheless.  Yes, this is what I try to explain to people when they run Internet speed tests.  These tests are not always reliable, though reliable enough in many circumstances.  For instance, ComCast houses a number of speedtest.net servers, which will produce much better results than servers outside of the ComCast network.  Especially with the peering point issues which exist with AS45-whatever and Qwest.

[Metalguy66]

Yep, it would definitely be kewl if someone took the initiative and coded some type of netspeed benchmark app for the 68k amiga, and then a corresponding "speedtest server app" that could be run on the "other end" whether that be windows, linux, amiga, etc..

This would allow you to set up controlled tests which could produce very relevant speed comparissons given the known nature of the LAN/WAN you were testing over..

[spirantho]

@MetalGuy66

When I want to benchmark something I just download a large file with a good FTP program, sometimes off the internet or maybe off another machine on the network if the connection is fast enough that the internet may be a bottleneck. That's as good a benchmark as needed, really.

[nicholas]

@MetalGuy66

When I want to benchmark something I just download a large file with a good FTP program, sometimes off the internet or maybe off another machine on the network if the connection is fast enough that the internet may be a bottleneck. That's as good a benchmark as needed, really.

+1

I always use FTP across my LAN in both directions to test the speed of a particular piece of hardware or IP stack.

So far Roadshow is the fastest of all the various 68k and PPC stacks I've used but I am yet to try Jens' suggested tweaks to AmiTCP.