AmigaOS 4.x to support about 180 Graphics card chips

[MarkTime]

@mountain_myst

Go play with your butterfly or something.

well its good to have a hobby....and when is someone going to ask me about my avatar anyway?  sigh...I call it:  how to throw a bird into the mouth of a bear.....

no butterfly on it yet, but it would look cool with a butterfly.... :-)

 :-P

expecially a checkered one.

[downix]

Please check your facts first there Mountain_Myst.  Ben Hermans disagrees with your statement there, in his comments on ann.lu.  The drivers being ported are 2D only, with 3D to be added later.  This will add years to the design work.

Well, Golly Downix...

I'm sure glad we have you here to tell us timelines.

Don't know what we'd do without you.

[Bodie]

downix wrote:
 This will add years to the design work.

Years? You may be strecthing things here a tad. Yes you are right that the 3d drivers won't be included immediately but to claim it will take years was unfair.

[Troels_E]

@ DOWNIX

"Please check your facts first there Mountain_Myst. Ben Hermans disagrees with your statement there, in his comments on ann.lu. The drivers being ported are 2D only, with 3D to be added later. This will add years to the design work."

The mentioned drivers are "only" 2D like you say. Some are even for years old cards just like some morefuss drivers are.

What matters here is the newer ones and the future ones but I guess you never thought of that?

Oh, and 3D drivers will come for the newer ones that has documentation available (nothing new there).

(EDIT)
"This will add years to the design work":
Well  some would actually call that FUD or mudslinging from the competition, but I guess you know facts or...?

[Kay]

@Downix:

Oh, and here's the guy who was complaining about "thread after thread of MOS bashing". Anyway, do some research before slagging off the competition. Here's another list of supported chipsets, which seems to be more up to date. You'd have to be either very retarded or very delusional not to find QUITE A FEW chipsets which beats OCS by QUITE A GOOD MARGIN on it.

With this and Warp3D Nova in the works, I think it is fair to say that OS4 is looking to be vastly superior in the graphics department (unless Genesi can come up with something to match it).

Kay

[KingTutt]

Holy crap I just popped a woody.

Thanks for the heads up on the supported video cards Kay! You da man!

For all those naysayers, bah! Nothing is good enough for you guys anyway, so why even post anymore. Let us other amigans that have some hope left in this project have our day. This is fantastic news. Having SciTech onboard, is exactly what the doctor ordered, hehe. It will cut out months and months of driver support dev and make gfx integration seemless for the future. Not to mention all the extra legwork that SciTech will be doing on amiga's behalf for support in the next gen cards as they hit the market.

Here's hoping for a brighter Amiga future! Finally my Voodoo 5 5500 may see the light of day again on an A1!!!! yeay!

[Herewegoagain]

HAHAHA!!!!   I just looked at the list again....Radeon 9700 Pro!  WOOOOOHOOOOO!

I'd say that's a tad better than OCS....

[lempkee]

kinda funny to read this, its good news and its not mos news, but it doesnt really give me many answers.

anyway how many chips do we actually need to have supported to make a viable os? 3? ATI,MATROX and Nvidia? , or do we actually need 180? ... sure its good to have it all in the nova but i think i know what hyperion is doing here and that is saying "in the later updates new added chips will be supported" , ie not all at one go...

maybe i didnt understand it all....

anyway good news and most of all i know they can handle this and eventually i guess we will also (by using the drivers (SNAP) ).

but i am really unsure if i should book a tickect to cebit .....still... , why didnt they share any of that info? ...hmmm i hope they will....if the only thing is to show the hw and module based os up and running.

anyway i am sooooooooooooooooooooo looking forward to OS4

[Herewegoagain]

Well, I think it is key that so many different graphic chips can be used to run the A1 in standard desktop mode.  What is not clear is which ones will be supported under Nova, but I'd place my bets on the big 3:  ATI, nVidia, and Matrox.  

Of course, the older 3D chips that are already supported will remain, but it's doubtful they will concentrate on 3D for most of these old chips, as most wouldn't be worth it.  The thing about Nova is it will be more like DX9 in it's support for pixel and vertex shaders and all of those modern functions within the newer chipsets.  Those older 3D chips wouldn't be able to use that anyway, although they could still be used in a limited way.

[ksk]

G4 toasting the P4 :-o  ... 180 GFX chip drivers for AOS4 :-o  :-o  ...

When things sound too good to be true, they usually are. (just to calm things down a little bit) :-|

[zacman]

>HAHAHA!!!! I just looked at the list again....Radeon
>9700 Pro! WOOOOOHOOOOO!

Well the probably biggest problem however is that
most of the gfx card drivers of SNAP for advanced
cards are probably based on object files
provided by the card manufactures and these are
only available for x86 and not ppc.

[Panthro]

YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D



er WOW :-o ........................... :-)

You read that right, 2D. SNAP's vast majority of support is for 10+ year old VGA, EGA and CGA chip solution! Way to go Hyperion, you just evolved AOS4 to support chipsets that can't even match OCS capabilities!

Have you seen the list of supported chips? Of course there are old chips supported. But is that a bad thing??? And 90% of the old chips supported run rings around OCS, ECS and AGA in 2D mode.

There are support for many modern chips, far more than MorphOS. As for your complaint about 3D support, from what I hear, MorphOS is worse in this regard.

I think people would take you and Phoenix a bit more seriously if you stopped acting like a fanboy all the time...

[mikeymike]

Try not to read into everything with such over-riding optimism - just because SciTech have written stuff supporting over 170 graphics cards, it doesn't mean AmigaOS4 will support anywhere near that many.