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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: Jamesplease on November 22, 2019, 01:12:49 AM
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Can anyone elaborate to me the difference between an a600 and an a1200 (apart from the keyboard.)
Is an a600 as expandable?
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Yup! An Amiga 600 is the same as an Amiga 500 except it has has an IDE interface.
An Amiga 1200 is the MOTHER of all 68K machines!
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To add a little more detail, the 600 is an ECS machine with a plain 68000 chip. The 1200 is an AGA machine with a 68020. A stock 600 comes with 1MB or RAM, the 1200 comes with 2MB.
Historically the 1200 was considered easier to expand since it has a dedicated accelerator slot. Accelerators for the 600 need to clip on top of the 68000 chip, which is a bit trickier, and there aren’t as many options for them although some clever ones have been made more recently.
I think the 1200 is the better all around machine, but the 600 can be solid when properly expanded and its small size is just so darn cute.
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@giZmo350
No the A4000 came first with AGA and technically the A3000+ was the test bed for the AGA chipset with DSP thrown in! I'd say the A3000+ was the mother that Ripley style C= fragged with a flame thrower and then nuked from orbit!
Ahh C= you never made sense! :o
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Can anyone elaborate to me the difference between an a600 and an a1200 (apart from the keyboard.)
Is an a600 as expandable?
The A1200 positive points:
As standard, the A1200 feels about 4 times faster than the 600 and has double the amount of ChipRAM. The A1200 has a clockport and a CPU slot; you can easily expand with Fast RAM and FPU and also a faster CPU if required. A1200 has AGA graphics which is a very nice upgrade over the A600 ECS graphics capability. With AGA you can have photo-realistic graphics (it has a 24 bit palette). You can have 256 colour screens in any resolution, and a special HAM8 mode for a quarter of a million on-screen colours (in any resolution). The A600 is virtually the same as the A1000 from 1985... 32 or 64 colours in 'Lores' modes and only 16 colours in 'Hires' modes, with a 12 bit colour palette. HAM on the A600/A1000 is 4096 colours (Lores modes only). So the A1200 crushes the A600 regarding graphics capability.
The A600 positive points:
It's cute, it takes up less desk space.
Regarding expansion, the A600 can be expanded beyond the capabilities of a standard 1200 nowadays, but I don't believe an A600 can be expanded with PCI or Zorro slots like the A1200 can (via its CPU slot).
Do you want to go for cute or do you prefer the looks of the A1200?
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Oooops.... I meant to add the "wedge". ::)
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Good grief... had to log back in to add the word "word".... :(
So, should be...... Oooops.... I meant to add the word "wedge". ::)
What another post you ask? For some reason I can't modify the previous post.... weird.
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I have an1200 but both the capacitors and the 44 pin ide mount need replacing. I was wondering whether I should buy a 1200 that's exactly what I want or slowly learn how to fix it. When I looked at the prices the 600's are so much cheaper but I think I'll stick with a 1200.
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Good grief... had to log back in to add the word "word".... :(
So, should be...... Oooops.... I meant to add the word "wedge". ::)
What another post you ask? For some reason I can't modify the previous post.... weird.
Where did you mean to add the word 'wedge'? I'm confused by your previous two posts!
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Good grief... had to log back in to add the word "word".... :(
So, should be...... Oooops.... I meant to add the word "wedge". ::)
What another post you ask? For some reason I can't modify the previous post.... weird.
Where did you mean to add the word 'wedge'? I'm confused by your previous two posts!
hahaha.... In my first post I meant to say.... An Amiga 1200 is the MOTHER of all 68K wedge machines! ;)
after logging in... I still can't "edit' or "modify" any of my previous posts.... think I should start a new post for that? Anyone else NOT being able to edit previous posts? Odd.....
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Good grief... had to log back in to add the word "word".... :(
So, should be...... Oooops.... I meant to add the word "wedge". ::)
What another post you ask? For some reason I can't modify the previous post.... weird.
Where did you mean to add the word 'wedge'? I'm confused by your previous two posts!
hahaha.... In my first post I meant to say.... An Amiga 1200 is the MOTHER of all 68K wedge machines! ;)
after logging in... I still can't "edit' or "modify" any of my previous posts.... think I should start a new post for that? Anyone else NOT being able to edit previous posts? Odd.....
You missed off the wedge and BozzerBigD swooped in to correct you with his A4000 comment! ;D
If I have trouble with posts, I log out and then clear caches and cookies and history and then log in again.
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Good grief... had to log back in to add the word "word".... :(
So, should be...... Oooops.... I meant to add the word "wedge". ::)
What another post you ask? For some reason I can't modify the previous post.... weird.
Where did you mean to add the word 'wedge'? I'm confused by your previous two posts!
hahaha.... In my first post I meant to say.... An Amiga 1200 is the MOTHER of all 68K wedge machines! ;)
after logging in... I still can't "edit' or "modify" any of my previous posts.... think I should start a new post for that? Anyone else NOT being able to edit previous posts? Odd.....
You missed off the wedge and BozzerBigD swooped in to correct you with his A4000 comment! ;D
Exactly! LOL
If I have trouble with posts, I log out and then clear caches and cookies and history and then log in again.
If I clear caches and cookies in Safari, it really horks my logins where I use "remember me" with certain websites. Clearing history doesn't help with this A.O. problem. The troubles might be a Safari thing. Love my Macs but I really hate Safari. I've only had this particular i7 Mac Mini for a short while and need to get Fire Fox installed!
Geez! This website is acting weird the last couple of days. Quoting posts don't even seem to be working correctly.
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Edited my last post just now without logging out. I can now NOT modify even the last post after that "modify". :o
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I never use 'remember me' functions. I use the PW manager instead.
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Edited my last post just now without logging out. I can now NOT modify even the last post after that "modify". :o
I suggest a re-partition, re-format and re-installation of your OS. ;D
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Good thinking Paul!!!!!! :) ;) :D ;D 8)
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I will always have a soft spot for the 600 as it was the first Amiga model I owned, and if bread and butter floppy gaming is your thing then you can't go wrong.. it is widely compatible with most well-known Amiga games and programs from the height of its commercial success.
Workbench 2 and 1Mb RAM as standard are all nice improvements over the A500 it replaced as well as a slightly better graphics chipset and improved Paula chip.
The Amiga 1200 is a much nicer all around home computer though, I love it. It's just an absolute joy and pleasure to use. The 2 megabytes chip RAM as standard really help things like running productivity applications such as paint and image manipulation packages, word processors, etc. There are a wealth of nice expansions you can get for it too, and so many more things you can do with it. The AGA graphics gives you access to higher resolutions, interlace modes, HighGFX which makes Workbench even nicer to use. The drawback is games compatibility, many games that were designed with the A500 that may have worked on the 600 suddenly don't run on the A1200. There are ways around it, software like ReloKick can help, disabling CPU caches on user startup, changing the graphics mode to original chipset in early startup, and WHDLoad. On the upside there are some nice A1200-specific titles that appeared from 1992 onwards with much prettier graphics than the older games. Workbench 3 has some nice improvements over version 2 you get with the A600, though you can upgrade it.
A600 Pros:
Small form factor design may be beneficial for people where desk space is at a premium.
The lack of expandability may not be such a big issue with new accelerators and the Vampire on the market.
More compatible with earlier games.
Upgrading to OS 3 is relatively straightforward.
Cheaper to buy.
A600 Cons:
No numeric keypad can mean limitations with certain games and applications.
Only 1Mb of chip RAM as standard - certain productivity applications will struggle.
Later games designed for the AGA chipset will not run.
A1200 Pros:
A numeric keypad removes any of the issues with applications you may experience with an A600.
OS 3 has some nice improvements over OS 2.
AGA chipset has some nice display modes which make using Workbench a nicer experience and 2 Mb chip RAM helps a bundle with productivity applications.
Access to enhanced games designed specifically to take advantage of the AGA chipset and extra memory.
Extremely wide expansion possibilities.
A1200 Cons:
Some earlier games for the A500/600 may not work without third party utilities, changing the startup or WHDLoad.
People limited on desk space may find the A600 a better solution.
A nice example is getting expensive to buy with some machines selling for more than they were new.
I hope this helps.
Spud 8)