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Title: Trying FBlit396..WB screen corrupt.
Post by: marcfrick2112 on September 18, 2006, 02:42:08 AM
Hi, I am trying FBlit to maximize my chip RAM, it seemed to
work, OK...but now noticed nasty looking stripes appear on
WB when I double-click drawers, etc. According to the FBlit.
guide, this is a faulty installation...

Questions: Is FBlit normally stable? Will FBlit work with
'hacks' like MCP, or PicBoot?

Here's the first part of my SS, maybe I have order wrong...

$VER: Startup-Sequence_HardDrive 40.2 (25.2.93) Edited 09.16.06      
; Startup-Sequence for Marc's Amiga 1200 Tower  
SetPatch QUIET                                                                                            
C:CyReq                                      
C:PatchControl                    
C:Version >NIL:        
C:AddBuffers >NIL: DF0: 15      
FailAt 21                            
                                                                                         
C:MakeDir RAM:T RAM:Clipboards RAM:ENV RAM:ENV/Sys        
C:Copy >NIL: ENVARC: RAM:ENV ALL NOREQ            
Resident >NIL: C:Assign PURE                  
Resident >NIL: C:Execute PURE            
Assign >NIL: ENV: RAM:ENV          
C:Fblit                  
PicBoot Data:BPics/#?.iff DETACH FIXJUMP DELAY=0 PATCH      
C:MCP                                                      
Assign >NIL: T: RAM:T                                
Assign >NIL: CLIPS: RAM:Clipboards
Assign >NIL: REXX: S:

etc.

Any ideas would be great....
Title: Re: Trying FBlit386..WB screen corrupt.
Post by: leirbag28 on September 18, 2006, 03:20:08 AM

Personally I had Problems with SCALA MM300 when usising FBlit............the Level 4 AntiAliasing got all screwed up........level 3 and below were fine...........I told the author about this.............dont know if he made corrections

I love my SCALA.............Cant mess with my Darn SCALA.

Title: Re: Trying FBlit396..WB screen corrupt.
Post by: HellCoder on September 18, 2006, 10:13:41 AM
I had the same problem on my A4000, I did solve it but I'm not sure anymore. I think it had to do with something like transparant icons that needed to be disabled. But I can't tell for sure.



Title: Re: Trying FBlit396..WB screen corrupt.
Post by: starf81 on September 18, 2006, 12:41:28 PM
I've noticed the same problem on my "miggy" (A1200, Blizz1260, OS3.9) and I've never solved.

Please, let me know if (and how) you solve it!!!

A screenshot:



(http://it.geocities.com/tizeta2/amiga/amiga_fblit.jpg)
Title: Re: Trying FBlit396..WB screen corrupt.
Post by: HellCoder on September 18, 2006, 02:07:16 PM
Some notes from the .quide

Towards the end of your S:startup-sequence file, find the line that reads 'LoadWB'. Change this line too...

  LoadWB SIMPLEGELS

...and on the line before it, enter the command...

  WBCtrl IMT=ICONFAST
 
Note that with this configuration you will no longer get the transparent effect for dragged icons.

If you use MCP you should disable QuickDraw and enable QuickLayers. Neither of these steps is necessary, but this is currently the best configuration for operation with FBlit.

Did you do that too ?
Title: Re: Trying FBlit396..WB screen corrupt.
Post by: lurkist on September 18, 2006, 03:14:02 PM
--WBCtrl IMT=ICONFAST--

I tried this once, and it seems the WBCtrl command is non-standard, and not included with the FBlit package.

I managed to get rid of this bug somehow, and without using Simplegels as well.  Can't remember how though...

aybe just the right combination of libraries and workbench prefs.  E.g. I have icons in Graphics mem.
Title: Re: Trying FBlit396..WB screen corrupt.
Post by: HotRod on September 18, 2006, 03:20:00 PM
That option is available in AOS 3.9 and in 3.5 as well I think... Look in sys:prefs/ and choose "workbench".
Title: Re: Trying FBlit396..WB screen corrupt.
Post by: marcfrick2112 on September 19, 2006, 05:19:35 AM
@HellCoder: I did check out the .guide, and have everything
set up as recommended, except for WBCtrl. I think WBCtrl was
an add-on under OS3.9?? Anyway, I will try it, and play with
transparancy settings, see if I can get it to work.
Feel free to send more suggestions! Thanks.
Title: Re: Trying FBlit396..WB screen corrupt.
Post by: TjLaZer on September 19, 2006, 06:08:55 AM
My A1200 with 040/33 32MB also does the corrupt graphics, I swapped out my 040/33 with a 030/50 with same 32MB and the curruption is gone!!!!!  Is this a 040/060 only problem and if so why?
Title: Re: Trying FBlit396..WB screen corrupt.
Post by: marcfrick2112 on September 20, 2006, 09:12:43 AM
TjLaZeR: Maybe it is a problem with 040/060 boards, Starf81
has a system much like my own, (1200, 060, os3.9) and has the same
probs., but by the screenshot, not as severe as what I have.
What vers. OS are you running?

Hmm, this is a question for the technically-minded Amiga nuts
out there...

@starf81: do you have BoingBag 1 & 2 installed on your system?

Title: Re: Trying FBlit396..WB screen corrupt.
Post by: golem on September 20, 2006, 09:58:08 AM
I have a similar system (1200, 060, OS3.9) and I did have this problem but I added the LoadWB argument and it is gone so far. I am running on 64 colours though as it is quicker and the guide says there are weird problems with 128 colours.
I have both Boing Bags.
Title: Re: Trying FBlit396..WB screen corrupt.
Post by: rockape on September 20, 2006, 10:30:49 AM
Hi,

I've come across this problem with FBlit on various types of Accelerators.

The problem occured when I ticked Icons to Other Memory in the Prefs/Workbench Icon ToolType.


Also

Could it be that Fast Blit is case sensitive ?  Fblit ?  or FBlit ?


And

The FBlit installation docs recommend placing the FBlit command just after Assign >NIL: HELP: LOCALE:Help DEFER

See part of my A1200 Blizzard 040/40 SCSI startup-sequence

; $VER: Startup-Sequence_HardDrive 45.1 (25.11.00)
; Startup-Sequence for hard drive systems
OpenOxyPPort
If Exists C:IDEFix
  C:IDEFix
EndIf

C:SetPatch QUIET

C:Version >NIL:
C:AddBuffers >NIL: DF0: 15
FailAt 21

C:MakeDir RAM:T RAM:Clipboards RAM:ENV RAM:ENV/Sys
C:Copy >NIL: ENVARC: RAM:ENV ALL NOREQ

Resident >NIL: C:Assign PURE
Resident >NIL: C:Execute PURE

Assign >NIL: ENV: RAM:ENV
Assign >NIL: T: RAM:T
Assign >NIL: CLIPS: RAM:Clipboards
Assign >NIL: REXX: S:
Assign >NIL: PRINTERS: DEVS:Printers
Assign >NIL: KEYMAPS: DEVS:Keymaps
Assign >NIL: LOCALE: SYS:Locale
Assign >NIL: LIBS: SYS:Classes ADD
Assign >NIL: HELP: LOCALE:Help DEFER
C:FBlit
C:FText
BindDrivers
C:Mount >NIL: DEVS:DOSDrivers/~(#?.info)


Kind Regards, Michael

aka rockape
Title: Re: Trying FBlit396..WB screen corrupt.
Post by: HellCoder on September 20, 2006, 11:07:50 AM
Not related to the fblit problem but I would add the WAITFORVALIDATE argument in setpatch.

As for the fblit problem, perhaps you can try a different screen depth as someone else mentioned too ?
Title: Re: Trying FBlit396..WB screen corrupt.
Post by: kickstart on September 22, 2006, 04:58:06 AM
i have the same problem, my specs are a1200 060 32mb and tried with 16, 32 and 64 colours and same weird stripes in screen.
Title: Re: Trying FBlit396..WB screen corrupt.
Post by: HellCoder on September 22, 2006, 07:38:44 AM
I'll try to reproduce the error again this weekend since I seem to be the only one who actually solved this error. Unless someone else knows what to do ?
Title: Re: Trying FBlit396..WB screen corrupt.
Post by: marcfrick2112 on September 22, 2006, 11:56:11 PM
Hey everyone, I will try all the suggestions, thanks for the
help. Will have to wait till the weekend, been busy making
a nice home for my new A4000 :)

HellCoder: If you can reproduce the problem and find out
exactly what causes it, let us know. Seems FBlit is a problem
for many people....

Title: Re: Trying FBlit396..WB screen corrupt.
Post by: Vulture on September 23, 2006, 02:31:24 AM
Dunno if that'll help any, but I had corruptions when I changed fallocbitmap settings, so just in case that's the reason....

....go to fblitgui>fallocbitmap and make sure that it's like this:

installed > checked
activated > checked
task logging > disabled
task list options > exclude
anonymous tasks > promote
displayable bitmaps > pass on
promotion memory > mem_fast

BTW, are you sure the version is 3.96? Latest on aminet is 3.79a.
Title: Re: Trying FBlit396..WB screen corrupt.
Post by: kickstart on September 23, 2006, 02:53:01 AM
be carefull about some versions of fblit and blazewcp, some version (now i dont remember) is infected by a virus.
Title: Re: Trying FBlit396..WB screen corrupt.
Post by: LoadWB on September 23, 2006, 04:41:25 AM
FWIW, I noticed the same issue on two of my three machines with 060 accelerators:

2000 w/ Blizzard 2060 and Spectrum 28/24
- FBlit, Picasso96, PowerIcons
1200 w/ Blizzard 1260 (AGA only)
- FBlit, BlazeWCP

4000 w/ CyberStorm MKIII and Picasso IV (NOT affected)
- FBlit, P96, PowerIcons

I do not believe I am using anything other than the default configs for FBlit, and have followed the docs on startup placement and WBPrefs settings.  All have 2MB Chip and >= 128MB Fast.  I will have to check on the configurations for each program, as well as the versions.  I hoped this might be helpful in finding a common thread.
Title: Re: Trying FBlit396..WB screen corrupt.
Post by: zipper on September 23, 2006, 12:12:54 PM
FBlit + RTG - a big nono.
Title: Re: Trying FBlit396..WB screen corrupt.
Post by: HellCoder on September 23, 2006, 01:09:30 PM
Hi,
I haven't been able to reproduce the error.
Perhaps I've installed a different FBlit version ?
I'm using fblit V 3.73, what version are people working with that have the error ?
Title: Re: Trying FBlit396..WB screen corrupt.
Post by: marcfrick2112 on October 16, 2006, 06:19:21 AM
Hellcoder, and the other person :) I just went to website from the docs, it's actually V. 3.69....umm, little transposing error there...oops, I guess I'll have to try the newer version..but FBlit is stable now after changing where I put it in my SS...as per a suggestion here....sorry everyone
Title: Re: Trying FBlit396..WB screen corrupt.
Post by: HellCoder on October 16, 2006, 06:56:42 AM
Were exactly did you put it in your startup-sequence ?
Title: Re: Trying FBlit396..WB screen corrupt.
Post by: kickstart on October 17, 2006, 12:59:27 AM
Yes... good question.
Title: Re: Trying FBlit396..WB screen corrupt.
Post by: TiredOLife on October 17, 2006, 01:25:55 AM
This corruption occurs when on the Workbench Preferences icon, Images in Other Memory is selected in conjunction with FBlit.
Just change the selection to Images in Graphics memory.
Otherwise you ahve two programs trying to do the same thing.
Seems that way anyway and works for me.
Title: Re: Trying FBlit396..WB screen corrupt.
Post by: PlatformerZ on August 08, 2021, 12:26:43 PM
I had the same multicoloured stripes on my OS 3.9 WB with drawers opened.
@rockape 's note cleared it up. Thanks. ::)
Post: Also read that OS 3.9 BB4 includes BlazeWCP, FBlit and FText functions so no need for them. But use the Workbench app in Prefs in this case.