Can't get WHDLoad games to run on A4000 '060

[asrael22]

Hi.

I'm not certain what else I can try.
I have an A4000D here with A3640 doughterboard but it has a 68060 mounted.
It's running Amiga OS 3.9BB2.

When I start a WHDLoad game it starts, but after a few seconds it freezes where I can only make a reset.
With Elite for example, I can see the Elite spashscreen, showing the Cobra MK3, etc. but it just hangs there. All games I tried are like that.

I have tried a number of WHDLoad options, like MMU, NOMMU (which doesn't really work on 68060), NOVBRMOVE, NOCACHE, NOAUTOVEC, etc.
But nothing helps.

What could this be?

Manfred

[asrael22]

Hi.

Do you have a TCP stack running, USB running, or a GVP Spectrum graphics card?  All of those things have been known to cause conflicts on some systems.  Also I would make sure you're using the latest version of WHDLoad, slave files from a known-good source, and have everything properly installed.

Beyond that, sometimes you just gotta play around with the options a bit.  Good luck!  

I have Roadshow installed. But I have to manually activate it.
Also USB is installed, but it's also not loaded by default.
Graphics card is a Picollo-SD64 card.

It would really be great if I could get it working on that machine.
The slaves and WHDLoad itself is OK. The same games work properly on other Amigas.

Well, I guess I have to try some more.


Manfred

[asrael22]

on my A1200 I got it working after I disabled my USB stack (Poseidon) but on my A4000 with CS-MKIII I had the same issues as asrael22...game woud start and then hang and the only thing I was able to do was use the Quit key to get back to WB..I eventually ended up using my A1200 for my gaming/WHDLoad machine

I can't get back to WB. The system seems hang really. I can only do reboot.


Manfred

[asrael22]

I can't get back to WB. The system seems hang really. I can only do reboot.
Manfred

Interestingly I just had a game from Amiga Forever that came with a WHDLoad version 15.x, and I just got a black screen but could quit with the QUIT key.
The same game using the latest WHDLoad version just froze, no quitting possible.

Manfred

[asrael22]

OK. A simple test. Removed the monitor driver from devs restarted and then the games work.
So it seems to be the Picasso96 thingy.
Unfortunate, but I can live with this. At least I know how to make it work.

Thanks,
Manfred

[asrael22]

What version of picasso96 are you using?
When i ran with a proemetheus setup with a voodoo 3 i had to use this version of picasso to get whdload to work.

http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/Picasso96.htm

Yeah, I'm using that one. 2.1e.

Manfred

[asrael22]

There is a CyberGraphX driver for Piccolo use it! You can forget problem after that.

Hmm. I would. The only problem is that CyberGraphX still seems to be sold, hence it's not free to download, or?


Manfred

[asrael22]

Did you set the Maxtransfer  value of your HD partitions at 00x01fe00?

If you didn't set this value, then you couldn't run any WHDLoad Games.

I had this issue 17 years ago with my Blizzard 1260.

Two years ago I also bought an Amiga 4000 and put a 3640 card with 040-060 adapter and Full 68060 processor and I can start WHDLoad games without any issues.

The games work on the same machine when the Picasso display driver is not loaded.
So I assume that maxtransfer is OK.

Manfred

[asrael22]

Did you try changing the P96 settings like if you have them enabled, Planes to Fast, Disable Amiga Blitter, and so on?

No, I haven't checked those.

[asrael22]

Nobody has it stock. Checked amigakit, vesalia and few others. EAB fileserver seems to have it.

CyberGraphiX 3 is free, you can found it from aminet.

I can say that with CyberGraphX it works.
The WHDLoad games run OK when started from RTG workbench screen.


Manfred

[asrael22]

See the last page on this thread for some additional info on the GVP Spectrum, especially the bit from the WHDLoad manual I quoted in comment #29, and THoR's comment # 30.

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=65425&page=2

OK. I'm reading there that the Picollo obviously make such an Interrupt as well, hence either I'm reverting to P96 below 1.36 or use CGFX.

Manfred