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Re: In Rainbows
« Reply #29 from previous page: October 24, 2007, 03:10:03 AM »
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Wilse wrote:

I have a pair of Technics. One 1200, one 1210, bought a few years apart.

Not an outstanding record player by any means but does a decent enough job for me and is unbeatable for DJ-ing, IMHO.


TBH, the only pro grade turntable I've ever used is the 1200 MKII, besides that its a mixed bag of off-the-shelf brand direct drive and belt drive turntables. IMHO, your choice of cartridge has more to do with the actual audio output than the turntable itself. As for DJ'ing, I've been looking at what Vestax has to offer and they look pretty damn good, just gotta get off my backside and try 'em out ;-)

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I'm also cataloguing my vinyl collection. I've got through 700-odd 12" singles so far. A few more to go, then albums, 7" and 10" singles.
Should be finished by the end of the decade. ;-)


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Re: In Rainbows
« Reply #30 on: October 24, 2007, 03:12:49 AM »
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Getting back to In Rainbows for a moment, I must make sure I don't listen to it on public transport again. I listened carefully to "Nude" on the train this morning and it made me cry. Quite embarrassing :lol:

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Pull yourself together man...For gods sake, your British! :lol:

Speaking of Rainbow, I saw some clips from that show on YouTube recently, now that almost made me cry, pretty damn cringeworthy too :lol:
 

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Re: In Rainbows
« Reply #31 on: October 24, 2007, 09:33:36 AM »
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adz wrote:
Pull yourself together man...For gods sake, your British! :lol:

Yes, but I have an excuse ;-)

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Re: In Rainbows
« Reply #32 on: October 24, 2007, 02:50:28 PM »
awww sad little british boy....needs comforting... aww
And the canary said: \'chirp\'
 

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Re: In Rainbows
« Reply #33 on: October 24, 2007, 03:24:27 PM »
Keep your hands where I can see them... ;-)

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Re: In Rainbows
« Reply #34 on: October 24, 2007, 03:26:39 PM »
:lol: :lol:
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Re: In Rainbows
« Reply #35 on: October 24, 2007, 04:07:37 PM »
lmao @ last several posts...

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Re: In Rainbows
« Reply #36 on: October 28, 2007, 09:16:44 AM »
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No, but you can make up new ones :-) I'm not really familiar with the sound of vinyl, being a child of the digital age, but I'm led to believe that vinyl has a more "warm" sound compared to the "cold" sound of digital audio. So again, why can't DSP on a CD player approximate that quality?

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The CD exceeds the quality of a record for the most part. I'm sure somebody will spit out that vinyl can reproduce sounds in the 70KHz + range, but thats only with an exceptional record, produced by people would would actually care about such things and even then, only demonstrable on equipment that you me and several of our friends combined could never afford. And thats if the record is stored and played in a vacuum and read with a laser. Anyway, the chances that you can perceive tones above 22KHz is unlikely.





 

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Re: In Rainbows
« Reply #37 on: October 28, 2007, 12:27:22 PM »
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Simply because a turntable is an analogue device, you hear everything that is pressed into the vinyl. Best way I could describe it is like comparing a sign wave to a bar graph. Sure the bar graph can follow the curves of the sign wave, but you loose the smoothness in the process.

That makes it very clear - thanks! Surely this is a matter of "resolution" though? Make the "bars" on the "bar graph" narrower (and more of them) and the digital representation of the wave, and would therefore sound closer to the vinyl version. Right? And I guess that's roughly how DVD audio works?


Ah, it's not that simple. The process of cutting the master disc from which the vinyls are pressed produces artifacts that are not easily reproducable digitally.

A more correct analysis is that the mechanical nature of the recording introduces all kinds of additional harmonics that were not present in the original signal. No two recording processes will ever produce exactly the same nuances.

You've then got playback itself, where the same effects occur again.

In truth, it's fair to say that the appropriately oversampled and quadratically interpolated digital signal generates a more accurate representation of the original source signal (such DACs are high end though) even given that an analogue media has no meaningful quantization. It's the side effects of the analogue recording that give it it's distinct timbre and warmth.
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Re: In Rainbows
« Reply #38 on: October 28, 2007, 12:30:56 PM »
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Keep your hands where I can see them... ;-)

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