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Offline motorollinTopic starter

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In Rainbows
« on: October 22, 2007, 04:16:50 PM »
Just finished listening to Radiohead's latest album, In Rainbows. All I can say is, it's stunning. It's not quite what I was hoping for (more of Kid A/Amnesiac) but that is not surprising if you listen to Hail To The Thief. Actually, I'm just listening again and there is a very Kid A feel to some of the tracks (namely Bodysnatchers).

I can't really understand any of the lyrics yet, but that will come with time - I'm used to that after listening to Radiohead for 8 years :lol: According to Thom, "[In Rainbows is] about that anonymous fear thing, sitting in traffic, thinking, 'I'm sure I'm supposed to be doing something else'... it's similar to OK Computer in a way". This is promising - I always liked the feel of OK Computer.

By the way, this is the album which is currently download only, and bizarrely you pay whatever you want for it. I have no idea whether they are trying to make a point, or whether it is some kind of experiment, but it definitely does make you think about how much you really value music. I paid a fiver and thought this was fair considering there is no way to hear the tracks beforehand, and I intend to buy a "hard copy" when the CD is released later. I would have paid more for it had the CD option not been available. Call me old fashioned, but I still prefer to buy my music on CDs.

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Re: In Rainbows
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2007, 05:24:31 PM »
I looked at the download website but couldn't decide if I wanted a new Radiohead album or not, for any price! :-)

Don't get me wrong; the earlier stuff they did was awesome (Pablo Honey, The Bends) but the later material had me skipping tracks. (Music going backwards and Thom moaning on about something or other...) Saying that, there ARE some tracks that did rock: Idioteque, Optimistic, Go to sleep, There There.

Anyway, what happens when you finish the download? What exactly do you get? Tracks in MP3 format that are locked to your computer so they can't be copied? I agree it's an unusual approach to release an album with!
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Re: In Rainbows
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2007, 07:24:05 PM »
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Call me old fashioned, but I still prefer to buy my music on CDs.


Agreed, I like having something tangible, especially when it's got a whole album package to help add to some aspect to the feel of the music or whatever.  I like having a physical library that I or my friends can look over (of music, books, and movies for that matter).  I'm less inspired/excited when I'm clicking on track names on my screen.
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Re: In Rainbows
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2007, 07:26:06 PM »
I also really like the idea that somebody put real thought into what tracks are present and track order to create a complete, comprehensive work....that starts to be abandoned to the wayside when it's dumped into my massive collection of MP3's for the most part
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Re: In Rainbows
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2007, 07:29:34 PM »
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I looked at the download website but couldn't decide if I wanted a new Radiohead album or not, for any price! :-)

Don't get me wrong; the earlier stuff they did was awesome (Pablo Honey, The Bends) but the later material had me skipping tracks. (Music going backwards and Thom moaning on about something or other...)

Post OK Computer Radiohead takes a *lot* of getting used to. Persevere through those tracks that you can't bring yourself to listen to all the way through and you'll grow to love them when you discover their hidden beauty. And by the way, I hated Pablo Honey - so clearly our Radiohead taste is inverse :-)

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Anyway, what happens when you finish the download? What exactly do you get? Tracks in MP3 format that are locked to your computer so they can't be copied? I agree it's an unusual approach to release an album with!

They're just MP3s. No DRM.

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Re: In Rainbows
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2007, 07:30:44 PM »
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Call me old fashioned, but I still prefer to buy my music on CDs.

Agreed, I like having something tangible, especially when it's got a whole album package to help add to some aspect to the feel of the music or whatever.  I like having a physical library that I or my friends can look over (of music, books, and movies for that matter).  I'm less inspired/excited when I'm clicking on track names on my screen.

I really like Thom's artwork actually, which is another good reason for buying Radiohead albums :-)

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Re: In Rainbows
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2007, 07:31:52 PM »
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I also really like the idea that somebody put real thought into what tracks are present and track order to create a complete, comprehensive work....that starts to be abandoned to the wayside when it's dumped into my massive collection of MP3's for the most part

Good point. There are only 10 tracks on In Rainbows, coming to a total of about 42 minutes. So they haven't fallen in to the trap of dumping a load of crap songs in to the collection. Every song on In Rainbows is great.

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Re: In Rainbows
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2007, 07:37:15 PM »
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Call me old fashioned, but I still prefer to buy my music on CDs.

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Well, I want it on DVD audio.
I don't understand why they don't push that a bit more.
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Re: In Rainbows
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2007, 07:54:03 PM »
Why?

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Re: In Rainbows
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2007, 08:09:07 PM »
I always preferred vinyl to cd's.
The sound's more 'close'.
The same can be said about music-dvd's. You immediately hear the difference, even the most untrained ears.
I think it's very important, to feel 'close' to music.
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Re: In Rainbows
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2007, 08:14:10 PM »
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I always preferred vinyl to cd's.
The sound's more 'close'.
The same can be said about music-dvd's. You immediately hear the difference, even the most untrained ears.

But I thought anything higher than CD quality was supposed to be indistinguishable from CD audio? (at least by the human ear)

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Re: In Rainbows
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2007, 08:24:16 PM »
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
I always preferred vinyl to cd's.
The sound's more 'close'.
The same can be said about music-dvd's. You immediately hear the difference, even the most untrained ears.

But I thought anything higher than CD quality was supposed to be indistinguishable from CD audio? (at least by the human ear)

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No, it isn't, certainly not.
That's the salesman argument.
And good equipment makes the difference huge
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Re: In Rainbows
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2007, 08:30:00 PM »
Hmmm, might have to try to get hold of a DVD Audio version of a CD I already own and compare it. Assuming I have anything which will play it of course...

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Re: In Rainbows
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2007, 09:22:27 PM »
I wish I had the money. One of the first things I'll buy when I earn enough money is a top-notch audio equipment.
Especially with delicate music of, for instance, Arvo Part, I often miss the essential subtleties.
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Re: In Rainbows
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2007, 09:29:14 PM »
Maybe that's why it hasn't taken off - cos nobody can afford the equipment :roll:

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