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Title: Obligatory Ashes thread
Post by: Agafaster on November 23, 2006, 09:49:25 AM
Australia 346-3. Doh!
Harmy is clearly not at the races !
good on Ponting though. any one else think he's the spit of Dubya ?  :lol:
Title: Re: Obligatory Ashes thread
Post by: X-ray on November 23, 2006, 10:20:36 AM
Well, if you had asked me earlier in the year who I supported, I would probably have said Australia. But now it is 50/50. That doesn't look like a good start for England though.
Title: Re: Obligatory Ashes thread
Post by: Agafaster on November 23, 2006, 01:35:48 PM
ta! is it the underdog thing? cos we really fit that now!

..and here's me thinking G.Jones would be the problem !

still, we're marginally better off than the same point the last time we came down under!

Title: Re: Obligatory Ashes thread
Post by: Cyberus on November 26, 2006, 03:42:44 AM
We are SO not going to retain the ashes...

Sorry,
/blind patriotism mode on

We are going to stop those Aussie b@stards stealing the Ashes from us



;-)
Title: Re: Obligatory Ashes thread
Post by: adz on November 26, 2006, 09:24:30 PM
Come on Aussie!!! Come on, come on!!!
Come on Aussie!!! Come on!!!


Kiss the Ashes goodbye fellas :lol:
Title: Re: Obligatory Ashes thread
Post by: X-ray on November 27, 2006, 10:22:34 AM
Ja I suspect them Ashes are going back to the Aussies (even though they don't ever go to the Aussies, but you know what I mean)
Title: Re: Obligatory Ashes thread
Post by: Agafaster on November 27, 2006, 02:09:55 PM
indeed, its the title!

it doesnt look good, not a good start - we didnt really get into it until the saturday!

still in with a chance though (got to believe that, ro they might as well just come home!) there are still up to 20 days to play...

Adelaide is a whole other story, should play Monty.
The new BBC highlights program is quite good - a high point!

nice to see Warne rattled too ... ;o)
Title: Re: Obligatory Ashes thread
Post by: odin on November 27, 2006, 02:38:21 PM
Whose ashes are the prize then?
Title: Re: Obligatory Ashes thread
Post by: X-ray on November 27, 2006, 06:17:47 PM
@ Odin

It isn't certain what the ashes are from. Three ideas are:

1) A ball
2) A piece of bail
3) Lord Darnley's Mother-in-law's veil

Whatever those ashes are, they don't ever stay in Australia. In fact the recent tour of Australia by the real ashes in a secure glass cage is very rare. They usually don't leave England.
A replica urn is handed to the winning team. So like Agafaster says, it is the title, not the actual ashes that matters.
Title: Re: Obligatory Ashes thread
Post by: Agafaster on November 30, 2006, 03:28:11 PM
its the burnt remains of a stump burned when Australia won a series in 1882 to 'signify the death of English Cricket' as a piece of satire I guess in The Times.
and now, it is the oldest international sporting competition in the world!

heres what good ol' wikipedia has to say... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ashes)

-edit-
oh..ok, you read wikipedia as well,X-ray! I sit corrected...
Title: Re: Obligatory Ashes thread
Post by: X-ray on December 05, 2006, 04:27:06 PM
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/_42387908_fred203.jpg)

"Oh, bollox and woe is me," he muttered.


'Twas a bad day for England.
Title: Re: Obligatory Ashes thread
Post by: adz on December 05, 2006, 09:10:52 PM
Muahahahahahahahahaaaaa :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Obligatory Ashes thread
Post by: Agafaster on December 06, 2006, 05:33:06 PM
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X-ray wrote:
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/_42387908_fred203.jpg)

"Oh, bollox and woe is me," he muttered.


and I uttered the same when work's firewall wouldnt let me see the picture...

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'Twas a bad day for England.


absolute shocker!

my ghast was flabbered - what would you have done ?
any postmortems from non-English view points?

most of the English ones say 'Whither Monty and his wicket taking?' and why Jones ?

I would've prefered personnel changes (Panasar in for Anderson or Giles wouldve done),
but really, I'd've prefered if we hadnt changed a winning side, just put Flintoff back in.

although, all being said, it was our poor 2nd inns and the Warne factor that did for us...
Title: Re: Obligatory Ashes thread
Post by: X-ray on December 06, 2006, 05:58:13 PM
@ Agafaster

I dunno what your blokes can do now, but it will be an uphill slog from now on, even if victory is attained. History is not on your side though, because nobody has won the Ashes from a 2-0 starting deficit.
Title: Re: Obligatory Ashes thread
Post by: Agafaster on December 07, 2006, 01:30:43 PM
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X-ray wrote:
@ Agafaster

I dunno what your blokes can do now, but it will be an uphill slog from now on, even if victory is attained. History is not on your side though, because nobody has won the Ashes from a 2-0 starting deficit.


theres always a first time!
I dont think we'll do it either, too much has been lost.
mathematically its doable, but psychologically ? need to pull England up, and the Aussies to lose confidence, which ay gonna appen is it!

I think we should play Panesar at 11 instead of Anderson. and someone needs to reprogram Fletcher that for us to bat to 8, we need to start by batting to 7 first! above all, England need to not be cowed like they used to in the late nineties/early noughties... BRING IT ON!!

-edit-
slight nitpick, but we dont need to win the ashes (though that would be sweet!) just retain them - so a series draw is the what is required. a bit of grit to the last ball is the bare minimum!!
Title: Re: Obligatory Ashes thread
Post by: Agafaster on December 11, 2006, 09:00:57 PM
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@ Agafaster

I dunno what your blokes can do now, but it will be an uphill slog from now on, even
if victory is attained. History is not on your side though, because nobody has won the
Ashes from a 2-0 starting deficit.


actually,
The Aussies did it in the '30s IIRC (1936/7 ?)
won the series 3-2 from a 2-0 start by England.
;-)
still - its a tall order - just have to remember to play until the end this time!
Title: Re: Obligatory Ashes thread
Post by: X-ray on December 11, 2006, 09:11:41 PM
Well, I stand corrected. The dude on the TV must have said that England has never done it from 2-0 down. Either way, as you say it is a big ask.
Title: Re: Obligatory Ashes thread
Post by: Agafaster on December 12, 2006, 12:22:40 PM
y'never know though - we may get more luck too - Strauss was apparently given caught in the 2nd inns when the analysis showed the ball didnt touch bat or pad.

to Paraphrase Alex Ferguson: Cricket ? bl00dy hell! :o)

still-nothing like blind optimism in the face of impossible odds to see us through, eh!
Title: Re: Obligatory Ashes thread
Post by: X-ray on December 15, 2006, 01:57:01 PM
I see Monty did a good job for your boys, eh? You were right about him.
Title: Re: Obligatory Ashes thread
Post by: Agafaster on December 15, 2006, 03:34:04 PM
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X-ray wrote:
I see Monty did a good job for your boys, eh? You were right about him.


Ta! shame about the rest - good bowling performance (even Harmy came to the party!) undone by poor shot selection - the Aussies were really only bowling good line and length nowt special, but it got the job done - only Pietersen Harmison and (him again!) Panesar had an innings of any real worth.

still if the test ends with the series 3-0 I guess the series sponsors wont be happy!

on the upnote, if we can get Ponting with a 1st ball like the one that did for Langer, and then bat like never before, we COULD turn it around! looking forward to the summer now really !
Title: Re: Obligatory Ashes thread
Post by: X-ray on December 16, 2006, 09:10:09 PM
Oy yoy yoy, the Aussies know how to bat, innit?

Gilchrist again.

I remember seeing him go on the rampage in Johannesburg in 2002 and I was impressed then. He did it again.
Title: Re: Obligatory Ashes thread
Post by: adz on December 18, 2006, 05:28:24 AM
Woot!!! Australia won!!! :pint: :-)
Title: Re: Obligatory Ashes thread
Post by: Agafaster on December 18, 2006, 04:14:50 PM
I hope that was celebration, and not mock surprise! ;-)

in reference to this (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=14022) discussion, conclusive proof that god isnt an Englishman!

on paper, quite a close match between the sides (once Panesar* got a look in), but in reality a miss is as good as a mile. we were shot down in flames in Brisbane, lost it really only on the final day in Adelaide and lost it when Gilchrist made his tonne in almost-record time (Viv's record is safe for a bit then!) despite a magnificent tonne from Cook in Perth.
Still, two more to go!

Happy Christmas Australia!

high points - Freddie's Bowling, KP, Colly and Cook tonnes, Hoggy's 7-fer, Monty's 5-fer (8 in the match)*
low points - Jones either side of the sticks!

*so. it seems Panesar justified Fletchers' decision not to pick him for the 1st two tests. I mean he only got a 5-fer!!  :pissed:

its been interesting!
Title: Re: Obligatory Ashes thread
Post by: X-ray on December 18, 2006, 07:16:35 PM
Maybe you guys must recruit more South Africans before the next Ashes, if you want the little urn back  :-P