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I`m confused! Genesi VS Amiga.Inc....the saga continues.......
« on: February 23, 2004, 12:20:48 PM »
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What do you guys think of this?


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Re: I`m confused! Genesi VS Amiga.Inc....the saga continues.......
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2004, 12:30:45 PM »
I never understand a word those guys say, to be honest. It's like reading bad poetry ;-)

 

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Re: I`m confused! Genesi VS Amiga.Inc....the saga continues.......
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2004, 12:32:09 PM »
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I never understand a word those guys say, to be honest. It's like reading bad poetry ;-)



Agree fully. I dont read that site unless a post lie this comes and I click to see whats up.
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Re: I`m confused! Genesi VS Amiga.Inc....the saga continues.......
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2004, 12:39:04 PM »
haha  :lol:

It looks like even DoomMaster has joined the discussion:

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Re: I`m confused! Genesi VS Amiga.Inc....the saga continues.......
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2004, 01:09:12 PM »
Perhaps this has something to it:
http://www.ann.lu/comments2.cgi?show=1077310066&category=forum&number=16#comment

Or perhaps they are aiming at the fact that assets (sources, trademarks, and other IP rights) was transferred *after* AmigaInc was "on the verge of bankruptcy", which is "blatantly illigal" according to Ben Hermans?
http://www.ann.lu/comments2.cgi?show=1076172906&category=forum&number=39#comment

Or perhaps it's something else?

It will be interesting to follow though.
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Re: I`m confused! Genesi VS Amiga.Inc....the saga continues.......
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2004, 02:09:48 PM »
Come on people! its happening!

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Re: I`m confused! Genesi VS Amiga.Inc....the saga continues.......
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2004, 02:16:55 PM »
Apparently something important happened. Can someone briefly explain to me (without resorting to calling names and trolling) what the fuss is all about?
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Re: I`m confused! Genesi VS Amiga.Inc....the saga continues.......
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2004, 02:21:59 PM »
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1. Genesi will enforce the "upgrade" clauses to AmigaOS 4.2 and beyond.


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2. The Hyperion/Eyetech OS 4.0 Agreement will be declared "null and void and of no force or effect."


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3. We will sublicense under the Agreement and the ruling


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4. We can sublicense Hyperion for less than they have agreed to pay -- that is, if we can all get along


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Re: I`m confused! Genesi VS Amiga.Inc....the saga continues.......
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2004, 02:24:35 PM »
Amiga Inc themselves claimed that AmigaOS 4.2 is the upgrade to their AmigaDE.

Buck has the rights to the full upgrade path to AmigaDE.

This includes AmigaOS4.2+

The price has already been fixed by contract too, and it's cheaper than the deal Hyperion's getting!
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Re: I`m confused! Genesi VS Amiga.Inc....the saga continues.......
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2004, 02:49:50 PM »
This could be the best thing that has happened to this community in YEARS (provided that Hyperion and Eyetech stops burning bridges and play their cards right)!

Finally peace and unity is within reach!

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Re: I`m confused! Genesi VS Amiga.Inc....the saga continues.......
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2004, 03:10:51 PM »
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This could be the best thing that has happened to this community in YEARS (provided that Hyperion and Eyetech stops burning bridges and play their cards right)!

Finally peace and unity is within reach!

:-)


And everyone benefits, no matter where they are in the great divide right now.

Hell, even Seehund get's closer to his dream!  :lol:
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Re: I`m confused! Genesi VS Amiga.Inc....the saga continues.......
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2004, 03:20:22 PM »
Good one! :-D
But yes, it is a good thing...
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Re: I`m confused! Genesi VS Amiga.Inc....the saga continues.......
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2004, 03:25:23 PM »
LOL
Hyperion OWN OS4
there is simply no possible way a contract, not matter how badly mangled, with Amiga Inc can possibly give Genesi OS4.
At best all it means is the DE player they have licensed must be upgraded to the same level as that in OS4.2.
Just because it is integrated does not in any way mean that the two products are the same, in fact in the same page it is clearly stated OS4 and Amiga DE are two seperate products!

Which is all besides the point.

What is written on that page is not a contract, at best it is a guidline of the plan Amiga Inc had for the future at that time, and it is certainly NOT in any contract Amiga Inc has with Genesi.

Which is all premature. As yet I have seen or heard of absolutely no ruling in the initial case.Just because the deadline has passed means nothing, the judge still has to make and apply its final ruling into exactly how anything gained is to be awarded, and to who.Just because Genesi is listed on the deposition as a plaintiff does not garuntee that that particular company will gain anything of value, the contract in question was not with them it was with Thedic-germany, a completely different business entity.

Finally, even if Genesi do manage to void the contract in question, no longer will either eyetech or Hyperion be required to pay any license fee at all, so why the hell would they pay Genesi?They would also be under no obligation to include Amiga DE in the upgrade path of OS4....the contract is voided remember.

Once again this is nothing but FUD. Unless of course Gary Hary did some fast dealing during his stint as CEO of AMiga Inc. ROFL.

It is plainly obvious to me that Bill Buck has a personal vendetta against Bill McEwen, and possibley Ben Hermans, and is using his position to achieve completion of this vendetta. A gross misuse of power and the responsibility that has been provided to him in my opinion.

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Re: I`m confused! Genesi VS Amiga.Inc....the saga continues.......
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2004, 03:25:35 PM »
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What do you guys think of this?


I think there is going to be a small segment of the community who will overreact terribly. I hope the majority keep a level head and really think through what has just happened.

Speaking for myself, and not my company, I think this could very possibly be the best thing that has happened for the community in a long, long time. Speculation of course, I will simply sit back and watch this play out like everyone else.

Someone has to state the obvious and that someone is me!