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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2008, 07:17:23 PM »
Really?  Some of these websites offer to print your book for $1,000 dollars.  Why couldn't he re-coup the money?
 

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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2008, 07:17:34 PM »
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Simple solution: take pre-orders. If there are enough to cover costs then print the books. If not, then nothing is lost.

Right on. Cancelling the book is about the most stupid thing you can do. Hell, they could've released an electronic version instead as making a CD is a helluva lot cheaper than processing dead trees. The pirated version isn't even the most up-to-date release, f'r cryin' out loud!

Personally, I think the business case for a reprint was shaky to begin with, and this provided a nice, clean excuse for all those involved to bow out of the project without too much loss of face.
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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2008, 07:21:37 PM »
Theres a torrent ! Off to the Bay !.......Piracy! Man that is a lame excuse.......

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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2008, 07:36:08 PM »
I would rather have a printed book in hand, but agree that Ralph Babel could set up a website with a purchase option to download a PDF version of his new book instead of giving up and blaming the pirates.  The costs should be low enough to cover with sales that way.
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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2008, 07:39:16 PM »
I'm not pre paying for this book in the hope that the author graces us with his work. The book is a product. When they produce the product they'll get my money. I know amiga and related products are hard to come by but it's no excuse to reduce oneself to begging or taking on risk for something that might never provide a return.
 

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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2008, 07:43:00 PM »
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I would rather have a printed book in hand, but agree that Ralph Babel could set up a website with a purchase option to download a PDF version of his new book instead of giving up and blaming the pirates.  The costs should be low enough to cover with sales that way.


I'd rather have a printed book too. I think this is just a case where the guy realizes there isn't any money to be made and a good chance of taking a loss on it. Selling a PDF would eliminate most of his risk. No having to pay for printers, shippers, etc. Just about everybody who wants this book will buy it if he will just offer it for sale.
 

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« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2008, 07:43:01 PM »
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What a cop out. 95% of the people who would want that book would have bought it. I've been waiting for this book and now we get this crap excuse for not printing it.


Agreed, what a bummer. Though it must obviously sting to see your hard work posted for free on the net, maybe the fact a torrent exists is a sign the information is (at least somewhat) in demand and would be purchased.

 

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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2008, 07:56:26 PM »
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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2008, 08:06:54 PM »
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Personally, I think the business case for a reprint was shaky to begin with, and this provided a nice, clean excuse for all those involved to bow out of the project without too much loss of face.


Especially since there are plenty of companies like Lulu.com which can make printing on demand and arrange delivery and distribution etcetcetc...

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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2008, 08:12:04 PM »
As stated on a post above, it's a lame excuse. Those who were about to buy the book will buy it regardless the torrent. It's the same excuse from the music industry.
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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2008, 08:18:00 PM »
Setup a website with a password protected ebook PDF file on a website with a paypal link. Have a couple of passages from the book, testemonials, etc.

Internet markters do this all the time for information that's available for FREE...

If you're still into the Amiga at this point you'll probably download the torrent AND buy the real book also.

Did they hope to sell more than a few thousand anyway?

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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2008, 08:18:12 PM »
Sad news...
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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2008, 08:30:42 PM »
bugger...

so I guess this leaves me no choice and download the pirated version ? sigh... talk about having any/no choice :-(

I don't understand.... if people have the choice between NO orders and ANY orders... why do they choose NONE...

pdf download ? anyone ? where ?

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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2008, 08:31:36 PM »
Its very sad

I didnt know the existance of a torrent file with the english version of this book, which i have been waiting for many years

Now, i know about the existance of such a torrent file.
So? I STILL WANT THE REAL THING!!!
Come on Ralph, i would definitely buy the english printed book!!

And as a "bonus" or something like that, you could also sell the PDF version of it

Of course, im glad to pay for a pre-order! Count me in!

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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2008, 08:43:49 PM »
Yep, it's on the Bay with a good seed.  What is "Amiga Future project AGG"?
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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
« Reply #29 from previous page: May 15, 2008, 08:50:28 PM »
This smells like there is something deeper. This stinks like a cop out, for sure. I would surely purchase a copy of the (legitimate) book, and I believe many Amiga users would.
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