Dell U2410 Ultra Sharp Monitor, Supports 15kHZ!

[Acill]

Awesome find,  paid under $100 shipped for this. Amazing  picture and flicker free native Amiga modes through the VGA input using the 23 to 15 pin adapter the  1200 comes with.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/282307667108

[Acill]

All native  inputs so far,  directly booting to games as well.

[Acill]

Does not flicker for me using NTSC highres laced here. Well,  maybe some but not very noticeable in comparison to my 1084.

[Acill]

Very interesting. When you say "all screen modes", does that include PAL screen modes too?

If so, outstanding... best of both worlds, fast games, bigger area Workbench screens.:confused:

If not, still pretty good. Vastly reduced flicker on NTSC interlaced... without a flicker fixer.

Havent tried PAL,  only have a stock 500 here at my moms. Ive read it cant handle interlaced PAL though,  but non interlaced works in PAL fine.

[Acill]

@ Acill

just to be sure before i pick one up locally, is there any issue with screen sizes/ only showing portion etc. when going from workbench to genes and back ?

Its a wide screen,  but it seems to scale very well. So far its been great. Will know more when Im home with it on Tuesday .

[Acill]

No scandoubler needed if you don't go beyond hires. Interlaced, no good.

Not true, all modes available when you put the PAL and NTSC monitor files in devs are available and work well EXCEPT PAL HIRES Interlaced.

NTSC HIRES Interlaced and the lower res interlaced modes, including PAL work great, just the PAL HIGH RES Interlaced had a glitched in the scan lines. It displays fine, but the scns are reversed so the pictures looks strange. Its actually kinda neat to look at, but useless.

[Acill]

I have a 2412 as well, which I use with a scandoubler. I don't think it works without one; it's not 15KHz friendly. It is 50Hz friendly, though, so your (scandoubled) PAL screenmodes will work.

Matt its my understanding that some of the modes on the U2412 also work through the VGA port on this monitor with no flicker fixer.

[Acill]

@ 3246251196

If someone else has tested the 2412 as 15KHz friendly, then all you should need is the adapter. BUT - see below.

To expand upon David Wright's comment, I have tested the 2320 in 15KHz and it works. Interlace "works" on that display, but the picture quality is very poor. The 2412 may behave similarly.

One important thing to bear in mind: my A2000 would not boot with a generic 23-15pin adapter plugged in. Something to do with a missing genlock signal if I remember the discussion here about it. The official Commodore "silverbox" adapters contain additional logic that circumvents that issue and work fine. Those generic adapters work fine on AGA Amigas however. I don't know if other ECS Amigas behave like the A2000 with the straight-through generic adapters.

The Amibay thread you linked refers to a version of the adapter with buffered sync that seems to serve as a drop-in replacement for the Commodore adapter. You may want to get one of those.

Terry Carter is making direct clones of the original Commodore VGA adapters. He can be found in the Commodore Amiga Group on facebook. He is US based and isn't asking much for them. I got the first one I believe and he even does a 3D printed case for them.