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Amiga.org specific forums => Amiga.org Discussion and Site Feedback => Topic started by: bloodline on April 24, 2009, 01:48:03 PM
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Just a thought, perhaps Wayne would be keen to make an app for a.org? Would rock
A.org
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It would absolutely rock, and I'll be glad to help in any way I can, but I'm not particularly familiar with writing iPhone apps, or how it would be accomplished.
We also have to contend with the potential changeover of the site, should it not be compatible with later PHP / MySQL later this year, but as an iPhone user, I'm all for it.
Wayne
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I was considering constructing a more iPhone-friendly front end for a.org, but obviously have no way to interface with the database. I personally think an app would be overkill - a "mobile.amiga.org" would suffice :-)
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moto
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amigaworld.net already works with mobile browsers out of the box. Something like that for amiga.org would be nice.
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i realize how easy it is for everyone -- who has never run a site -- to sit and armchair quarterback about how easy things are and should be.
I don't however have the time, or inclination to spend a hundred or so hours developing for Xoops 2.0.7. ESPECIALLY when the pending server upgrade will more than likely kill off Xoops for us altogether.
It has nothing to do with this site itself, or the Amiga. Remember, I run several sites including Whyzzat and the Salem Spectator, wingwiki, etc.
When I started this site nearly 15 years ago, the net was new, and I was some eager kid who worked in a warehouse and had too much time on my hands. My life now however is spent 8-16 hours a day in front of a computer for my real job and -- to be honest -- I don't find it fun any more to spend more of my time than I have to developing web code. It's a real shame to realize that I've lost the love for coding that I once had, but there we are.
It's kind of like what happens to Amiga users when they learn everything that there is to know about the Amiga. They tend to say, "ok, what's next?", then move on to something else.
Tell you what though...
If anyone out there wants to install a copy of Xoops 2.0.7 and NewBB 2 in order to develop a "mobile.amiga.org" page, I will be EXTRAORDINARILY happy to take that working code, change the DB details, maybe pretty it up then put it online for us.
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@Wayne
I don't think anybody said it would be easy...
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motorollin wrote:
@Wayne
I don't think anybody said it would be easy...
amigaworld.net already works with mobile browsers out of the box. Something like that for amiga.org would be nice.
Witness what I took as a seemingly snarky suggestion that it's not only easy but an accusation that I'm somehow lacking for not already having done it.
As for easy or not, in the context of my last reply, you now help to prove my point. It wouldn't be THAT difficult, it's simply that -- wherein this site is concerned -- I feel very trapped.
- If I make it modern and useful, the 5% of Amiga users {bleep} and go to moobunny anonymously crying.
- If I leave it be, people complain that it's not modern enough for their cell phones.
- The code is so old it can't be upgraded (the upgrade paths are long gone).
--- sigh... nevermind, this is getting depressing.
I just wish there were some young, enthusiastic person out there willing to invest in the site -- They spend more on Amiga parts on e-bay -- then take it and do what they want with it.
As for me, between coding burnout and the paradox that this site has become (between steadfast Amiga curmudgeons and those that want new features), I'm just in a holding pattern, hoping that I don't have to reinvent the wheel when PHP4 is discontinued.
I've been doing this for 15 years now and I guess I'm just totally burned out. Not only have I seen 4 owners come and disappear, I've seen the community shrink from thousands of enthusiasts to *maybe* dozens of hardened tinkers.
I've loved doing it, because it's provided a lot of enjoyment and satisfaction over the years, but frankly, I'd rather be riding than coding or playing with computers any day.
If I could only find a job that paid me to ride and write about it.
Wayne
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Wow Wayne, relax.
I know you have something against me personally, but believe me, that comment wasn't meant to be snarky in any way.
I just noticed the other day that amigaworld.net has this nice feature, it works nicely with Opera Mini on my 6120C and E71. I just noted that something like that would be nice for amiga.org, too.
If you somehow read something snarky into that earlier post, well I can't help that.
Just to reiterate:
- I have not accused you of anything in this thread
- I have not gone to moobunny to cry anonymously
- I have not complained about amiga.org not being modern enough on my cell phone
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*backs away quietly*
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#piru,
Before you get the wrong idea, my remarks were *not* personal in any way, or at least they were not intended to be.
I'm trying -- apparently unsuccessfully -- to relay my frustration and burnout with coding in general (as well as my burnout with trying to keep the site going). I can't even get enthusiastic about putting in the hundreds of hours necessary to create a new Amiga.org in the rubble of what this site will become after the PHP upgrade.
I apologize if I made it personal in any way. That's not my intent.
If the Amiga were still a viable platform, and moving in any direction (that doesn't involve Bill Buck), that'd be different, but I'm suddenly realizing how long a journey this has been and frankly, I'm very, very tired.
Really. Honestly, I'm very sorry to have made it sound like I was either attacking, or misunderstanding your comment. My personal frustrations just got involved, and I apologize.
Wayne
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motorollin wrote:
*backs away quietly*
haha...
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For the record, though we've all interacted through this site, we really don't know one another, and it's very easy to misunderstand intent and reaction through a web post.
If we were all locked in the same room, chances are we'd be drunk and buying rounds within an hour. Good old buddy style, with a few exceptions.
I do owe an ass kicking to a couple of people (related to the Bill Buck screwing that I got) but that doesn't involve a single person on this site. Hell, if we ever had the chance to be in the same room, I'd probably buy the first round for every single person here.
That's how I feel.
Wayne
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@Wayne
:love:
:pint:
:knuddel:
(in that order).
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:pint: :-D
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@Wayne
Since you sound like you have so much free time... How about you run over to the Greenbrier Restaurant (http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Overview.aspx?RefID=3369), get me a mess of Hush Puppies and same day airmail them to South Florida :-?
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motorollin wrote:
*backs away quietly*
:lol: :lol:
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Wayne wrote:
I've seen the community shrink from thousands of enthusiasts to *maybe* dozens of hardened tinkers.
Can you tell us how many Active users there are on Amiga.org please? Ive always wondered what the true figure is... Shirley, you can see who is and who isn`t logging on every hour/day/week/month.
We should all meet up some time!!
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@Wayne
Like you I turned a hobby into a career and you are right, it does drive your enthusiasm down after working for years in terms of being eager to experiment - to me IT is a means to an end.
Do you want to sell A.org?
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And why an app for iphone? there is dozens of mobile gadgets capable for net surfing apart of iphone, a mobile version is better idea.
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@Wayne,
I know it's been said and though I've contributed to the site monetarily, in the past, I haven't done it enough, but thank you for Amiga.org. This page has been my homepage and it's been that way for several years. To quote many of my friends when they borrow my lappy or desktop to browse something, "Well, we know where your loyalties lie...".
I would love to see an updated version of Amiga.org and while I empathize with those that still browse with their Amigas, preferring to tell them to get out of the "Dark Ages", I understand where you're coming from. There's no pleasing everyone.
I remember finding out about this site, 11 years ago, from one of your former co-workers. I can't remember his name, nor for the life of me, where I found him, but it was when I finally migrated to a PC and in an ICQ chat, I was commenting on how much I hated Windoze and like Amiga Workbench so much more. I kept going on and on about it and I remember him saying verbatim, "You sound like my co-worker, Wayne. He's as rabid as you are. You should check out his site: www.amiga.org".
I've been here ever since....
I also understand your frustrations with coding. Rarely, do I do any Web Development anymore, as I got burnt out a while back and since I didn't keep up with the latest and greatest, I'm out of form. Same goes with audio production and engineering. I still keep up with my graphic arts, but that's 'cos it's my main source of income and rarely do I ever fire up an "Amiga" (ie, UAE) anymore. I used to make texture maps exclusively in UAE just to say I did, as well as color-tweak comic pages using Photogenics, just to say an Amiga was used, but nowadays, it's just faster (and more efficient) to just do it all in Photoshop and Painter.
You ever make it to my side of the Continent, Sir, the first round's on me.
-Madin
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Wayne wrote:
.... Hell, if we ever had the chance to be in the same room, I'd probably buy the first round for every single person here.
That's how I feel.
Wayne
:cheers: ..we all have our daily stresses Wayne..thanks for relieving some of them with this site :-D
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Just have the webmaster install Tapatalk's plugin. Its free and works great. I use a few sites with it.
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Just have the webmaster install Tapatalk's plugin. Its free and works great. I use a few sites with it.
Nothing personal... but... are you one of them spambots I sometimes gibber to... :)
(Technology today... aint it amazing... I can even talk to computers now & they talk back... wonder what they'll come up with next, hand held phones that you can use anywhere just like the communicators in Star Trek... Nah... too far fetched that, even for me...) :)
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Nothing personal... but... are you one of them spambots I sometimes gibber to... :)
(Technology today... aint it amazing... I can even talk to computers now & they talk back... wonder what they'll come up with next, hand held phones that you can use anywhere just like the communicators in Star Trek... Nah... too far fetched that, even for me...) :)
Umm, no I am not a bot the last time I checked. Damn the Borg!!! Did they get to me?
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Wow thats a REAL amiga anywhere! I like this but I agree touch screen controls blow for amiga games.
Can you imagine walking around with a competition pro plugged into your phone? that would be funny! You could ask strangers to hold the phone for you while on the train or a bus. hahaha.
Steven
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Let sleeping threads lie.
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Wow, Someone is into necro!