Author Topic: Raspberry PI (Read 25787 times)

desiv · « **on:** February 29, 2012, 09:12:11 PM »

Quote from: TheBilgeRat;681887

It hasn't come out yet, but my feeling is that when they decided to go with the distribution partner side, the Raspberry Pi folks didn't quite know what they really were getting.

Actually, no..
Apparently the Raspberry Pi folks are mad at the distributors..
They apparently tried and tried to warn them about the demand, and the distributors either didn't listen or didn't believe them...

Personally, I'll wait for better availability later... ;-)

desiv
(I apparently really like the word "apparently".. Hmmm...)

desiv · « **Reply #1 on:** March 01, 2012, 04:26:57 PM »

Quote from: tone007;681968

Ho hum. http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-details/?device=Motorola+Atrix+(TM)+2+(Refurbished)&q_sku=sku5580225#fbid=bvU-6q8AWxi

From that link:
No Commitment Pricing(New) $449.99
2-yr Contract Price $99.99
Refurb Discount - $99.98

So, a $35 device is "Ho hum" compared to a $450 device (that can be had for only $100 with a 2 year contract or free for a refurb with a 2 year contract...

er.. You're trying to prove the point that it's a great device/deal then??? ;-)

desiv

desiv · « **Reply #2 on:** March 01, 2012, 05:26:31 PM »

Quote from: tone007;681970

You left off the .01 final cost of the phone but regardless,

No I didn't, I just rounded down.

Quote from: desiv

or free for a refurb with a 2 year contract...

And free (or $0.01) "WITH A CONTRACT" is not even close to free...

Yes, it is closer to a cheap tablet.
But my cheap tablet (which I love) doesn't connect to my TV.

It's a different target device....

desiv

desiv · « **Reply #3 on:** March 02, 2012, 04:07:47 PM »

Quote from: Arkhan;682161

OOPS I SPILLED CAPRI SUN ON MY RASPBERRY PI.

I picture cake frosting and crap spilled on these. Kids are clumsy and sloppy. Slap them in front of some hulking PC case. It's safer.

That's actually a plus for the Pi there..

I'm sure, when it gets to kids, there will be cases.. So I don't see spills really being a problem..

But it's possible..
So, ruin a $35 Pi or a $200 netbook/PC.. Which is easier to replace?

Slap them in front of a hulking PC case and it gets knocked off the desk (I used to (man, was it that long ago, I'm getting old) work for a school district, it happened a lot- not daily, but it happened much more than we wanted) and again...
Replace a $35 Pi (which you wouldn't have to most likely.. Things that small falling off of a desk, most likely no issues...), no biggie.
Even if it's just re-seating cards to get the PC working, that's a service call to the help desk, down time, tech time...

Done right (which I'm sure it won't be), it could be a really neat setup.. ;-)

desiv

desiv · « **Reply #4 on:** March 02, 2012, 06:27:14 PM »

Quote from: Arkhan;682210

Please, lets drop the condescending HURHUR you dunno nothin' crap. It's getting none of us anywhere. .

:roflmao:
Man, that was hysterical!!

Thanx for that!!

Irony can be so ironic sometimes..

desiv

desiv · « **Reply #5 on:** March 02, 2012, 07:33:34 PM »

Quote from: koaftder;682226

I agree that it's a great skill to have, but the list of great skills to have is exceedingly long and there is a limited amount of time and resources available for instruction of k-12 kids.

True, but what I always liked about the very early computer experiences I had (BASIC/ LOGO type languages) was that I felt they were great at teaching logic.

And that's something that I think is equally as important as math and reading...

Whether or not you ever work in the computer industry..

desiv

desiv · « **Reply #6 on:** March 02, 2012, 07:48:52 PM »

Quote from: koaftder;682232

Educators don't bother with it anymore because it turned out that it wasn't very useful.

I don't agree...
I think the lessons in "logic" were much more important than they realized..

Just because they all didn't go on to work with computers, doesn't mean the education wasn't important..

But who knows..

desiv

desiv · « **Reply #7 on:** March 03, 2012, 07:38:15 PM »

Quote from: vidarh;682335

I must admit I find the whining about the performance of the Pi on a forum where a large number of members still stick to hardware with CPUs where double digit MIPS values are considered fast...

Exactly! :-)

You would think we'd be supremely aware of the waste in the "higher numbers mean better" fallacy...

And not just retro...
I have a 400Mhz Nokia 770 tiny tablet...
My wife got me an 800Mhz Android tablet recently..

Both are crazy fun, for different things...
But frequently, the 770 is faster and more responsive than the 800Mhz tablet..
Why, Android....
It has some great benefits (remember, I think the tablet is great), but Android has some serious overhead...

So, I can imagine the Pi, with a stripped down Linux running really fast, even given it's specs....

My only complaint (I've mentioned a few times) is that it doesn't do RGB, so I can't use it as a MAME device in my cabinet (I have a real arcade monitor)..

And, to be honest, I think it probably won't help education...

I think it could.. I just think it won't.. Knowing the system nowadays, it won't be adopted widely enough and/or they'll choose all the wrong software..
Yeah, I'm cynical.. ;-)

But I think the Pi can be a success, just not the way they intend it to be..
Hobbiest and embedded market...
Higher education even... Prepping for embedded system careers..
But K-12, I have my doubts...

desiv
p.s. Just noticed something turned one of my phrases into a VigLink to an Amazon search? Is that something Amiga.org is doing now? Not necessarily a problem; I just noticed it....