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The "Not Quite Amiga but still computer related category" => Alternative Operating Systems => Topic started by: trekiej on February 25, 2015, 05:15:22 AM

Title: Apple II GS
Post by: trekiej on February 25, 2015, 05:15:22 AM
Hello.
Has anyone here used on of these?
Do you like the IIGS?
Cheers.
Title: Re: Apple II GS
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on February 25, 2015, 06:11:17 AM
Ask anyone in North America in their late 30's, and yes, we all used Apple II's and IIGS's in school.  ;)  Personally I liked the IIGS a lot.  Didn't hold a candle to my Commodore's or Amiga's at home, so I was a bit snobbishly biased, but good for what it was.  A quite capable, reasonably expandable box.  Still hold their value quite well, from what I've seen when I occasionally look them up on ebay, and there's some pretty good after-market kit available for them still, too (think: the kind of stuff Jens makes for Amiga's).

Were I gifted with unlimited space, time, and money, I'd definitely like to have one today.  ;)
Title: Re: Apple II GS
Post by: trekiej on February 25, 2015, 06:19:15 AM
I am thinking of getting one for the fun of it and to collect old computers and game consoles.
I was thinking it was possibly what a c65 would be like if if had hit the shelves.
I have done some research on it and saw some after market cards for it.
It looks like it is a fun machine.
I hear it was not made to run as fast as it could but could be made to be accelerated.
Title: Re: Apple II GS
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on February 25, 2015, 06:30:24 AM
If you got the money man, go for it!  :hammer:
Title: Re: Apple II GS
Post by: kamelito on February 25, 2015, 12:47:15 PM
I've one nice little machine, put 4MB on it plus a CFFA3000 then as I don't have place it's in the basement ;(
For advices post at comp.sys.apple2.
Check also A2central.com there's also a lot of links there for A2 stuff.

Kamelito
Title: Re: Apple II GS
Post by: Tenacious on February 25, 2015, 02:48:28 PM
What a timely thread, I was looking into available software for Apple 2s just last night.  I have the older (and less expandable) Apple IIc. I love the green screen! The recent thread about Ncomm and BBSes got me thinking that it would be fun to link some of the older machines thru null modem cables.  Since HDs for IIc are rare and spendy, maybe I can archive Apple software on another platform before it evaporates from the original floppies.

I would be interested in a short list of the must-have apps for Apple II.  :)
Title: Re: Apple II GS
Post by: Tenacious on February 25, 2015, 02:55:34 PM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;785372
..Personally I liked the IIGS a lot.  Didn't hold a candle to my Commodore's ...

I have no experience with the IIGS and very little with the C64.  How was the C64 superior (sound, graphics, software selection)?  IIRC, they both used the CPU from the 6502 family, even though the IIGS was 16-bit.
Title: Re: Apple II GS
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on February 25, 2015, 03:52:48 PM
Quote from: Tenacious;785404
I have no experience with the IIGS and very little with the C64.  How was the C64 superior (sound, graphics, software selection)?  IIRC, they both used the CPU from the 6502 family, even though the IIGS was 16-bit.

Technically it was not.  It was an emotional attachment.  Although software selection for C64 was about 1,000,000,000x better.  ;)
Title: Re: Apple II GS
Post by: eliyahu on February 25, 2015, 04:04:09 PM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;785405
Technically it was not.  It was an emotional attachment.  Although software selection for C64 was about 1,000,000,000x better.  ;)
i loved both machines. we used the C64 for a very long time indeed because of the games, but the IIgs was much more useful in terms of software that one actually, er, uses. and the system software was like a mini-mac. it was terrific.

i highly recommend getting a IIgs if the OP can find one in good condition and can afford it. :)

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: Apple II GS
Post by: Kremlar on February 25, 2015, 05:06:57 PM
We had a IIgs in our high school TV studio.  We all wanted an Amiga but Apples were too embedded in the schools, so the IIgs was a trade-off.  

It was an OK machine I guess, but sat unused most of the time.  Most computer-generated things that were done for the TV studio were done on Amigas at home.  :)
Title: Re: Apple II GS
Post by: trekiej on February 25, 2015, 05:08:12 PM
The IIGS reminds me of what the C65 would have been like.
I do not know what the Apple II's are like when expanded.
The C64 is more popular imo than the II's. I guess cost less and had good games.
Title: Re: Apple II GS
Post by: tonyvdb on February 25, 2015, 06:02:41 PM
I used them in Jr High and highschool. My parents bought my brothers and I one for at home. Payed almost $3000 for the Apple II, color monitor, dot matrix printer, two floppy drives and joystic. Yikes thats was alot!
The Apple II still holds a place in my heart. not sure if I would buy one now though
Title: Re: Apple II GS
Post by: Ral-Clan on February 25, 2015, 09:18:26 PM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;785372
Ask anyone in North America in their late 30's, and yes, we all used Apple II's and IIGS's in school.

Not in Canada.  Here (at least in Ontario) all the schools had Commodore PETs, then later moved onto C64s, for a brief stint the UNISYS ICON computer, and finally Commodore produced PCs.

Commodore really had the educational market wrapped up here (although I understand there were a few schools that used Apples).
Title: Re: Apple II GS
Post by: trekiej on February 26, 2015, 01:55:04 AM
When I was in Jr High we had PET's, but in High School we had C64's and Apple II's.
If I had the chance to use the Apple II's I think I would have had a different experience and opinion. Crud, now I have buy one of those to see what it was like. I will probably get and emulator instead. I do not know if there is a good IIGS emulator out there. I did see one posted on OS4 Depot.
Title: Re: Apple II GS
Post by: klx300r on February 26, 2015, 03:58:14 AM
@ trekiej

No and No;)

I grew up with PETS in my school thank God!
Title: Re: Apple II GS
Post by: trekiej on February 26, 2015, 04:12:01 AM
:D
I will buy them when I can, I think that I will not have to be in a hurry.
So how is Kegs?( I wonder what answer I will get)
Title: Re: Apple II GS
Post by: QuikSanz on February 26, 2015, 04:12:30 AM
Quote from: trekiej;785450
When I was in Jr High we had PET's, but in High School we had C64's and Apple II's.
If I had the chance to use the Apple II's I think I would have had a different experience and opinion. Crud, now I have buy one of those to see what it was like. I will probably get and emulator instead. I do not know if there is a good IIGS emulator out there. I did see one posted on OS4 Depot.


LMAO, when I was in Jr high I was in the MGM program and they sent me to the local college. They had an mainframe with punchcards. Heheheh
Title: Re: Apple II GS
Post by: danbeaver on February 26, 2015, 04:29:03 AM
My computer in high school (1974) was an IBM 1130 with punch cards (no need to learn how to use a keyboard there) and a true "line-printer" which printed an entire line at a time.
Title: Re: Apple II GS
Post by: QuikSanz on February 26, 2015, 04:34:10 AM
My experience was about 71. the hard drives were as large as a wedding cake! Lots of big platters.
Title: Re: Apple II GS
Post by: trekiej on February 26, 2015, 04:40:31 AM
Did anyone run into the MCP when they got near the core?
Title: Re: Apple II GS
Post by: danbeaver on February 26, 2015, 04:59:24 AM
No, I didn't even know Jeff Bridges back then!  He must have gone to another school near the water and boats.
Title: Re: Apple II GS
Post by: trekiej on February 26, 2015, 06:09:23 AM
:D
Title: Re: Apple II GS
Post by: kamelito on February 26, 2015, 11:49:36 AM
Don't know about Kegs I've use Sweet16 more.
Kamelito
Title: Re: Apple II GS
Post by: Tenacious on February 26, 2015, 03:27:10 PM
There have got to be many thousands of Apple 2s still existing with proud owners who want to keep them running and even somewhat modern. By that estimation, there must be fewer but still a substantial number of IIc machines still clocking and prized by their owners.  And yet, it is difficult to find a modern storage solution for the IIc!  Casually browsing for the Timex/Sinclair 1000 the other night, there was an active community and modern hardware still developed with a SD card storage.  This is great, because the cassette tape method was completely frustrating and unreliable!

I imagined there would be HD solutions, SD card solutions, comparatively enormous ram expansions, etc AND a ROM update to seamlessly glue the new options together for a better system that retains backward compatibility.  IMHO, the IIc was one of the very first portable computers and had great build quality (I was smitten when it showed up in the movie "2010").  And yet, I can find very little available for it, nothing cleverly modern, and nothing that isn't rare and expensive.  Maybe I'm just looking in the wrong places?
Title: Re: Apple II GS
Post by: LoadWB on February 26, 2015, 04:39:15 PM
Back in my high school days ('92 grad,) we had Macs, IBM PS/2s, a soon-to-be-retired lab room of Apple ][s (actually a neat ProDOS networked setup,) and two IBM System/34s.  The only IIgs I ever saw was a guy down the street had one.  It was cool, but the other guy down the street had an Amiga which I thought was way cooler. :)
Title: Re: Apple II GS
Post by: trekiej on February 26, 2015, 06:40:27 PM
I wish  new more about the IIgs. On ebay I see some new add-ons for apple II.
Maybe there is a hack for increasing the clock to 2 or 4 mhz.
SuperCPU runs circles around this machine.
Title: Re: Apple II GS
Post by: kamelito on February 27, 2015, 01:28:43 AM
This could be interesting
http://a2central.com/5898/ultimateapple2-and-reactivemicro-to-bring-transwarp-gs-clone-and-more-to-the-masses/

Kamelito
Title: Re: Apple II GS
Post by: trekiej on February 27, 2015, 02:06:02 AM
Wow, there must be a retro virus going around.