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Offline nicholas

Re: Sneak Peak on the next AROS Vision with Magellan
« on: July 27, 2013, 12:18:36 PM »
I'm going to dedicate a partition to your distro on my A3000/060 with Picasso IV Olaf.

How does it perform on real hardware compared to UAE?
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Offline nicholas

Re: Sneak Peak on the next AROS Vision with Magellan
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2013, 03:27:15 PM »
Quote from: OlafS3;742614
that is something Wawa can better answer. From what he told becomes AROS 68k usable with Magellan (because the slow Wanderer is removed). AROS 68k is still slower in some areas (f.e. memory management). I did some benchmarks on UAE to compare and it seems that the cybergraphx routines are (partly) slower too. But I hope that using Magellan will mean a major step ahead (both functionality and speed)


Have you tried Scalos with it at all?  I vaguely remember that Scalos was faster than Magellen on 3.x machines.

Also, I'm wondering if the TLSFmem patch and StackAttack2 from aminet are compatible with AROS 68k?  TLSFmem should give it a real speedboost if it is compatible.

Would I need to install a 68060.library or does AROS come with it's own?

Also I wonder if thor's MMULib package would work with AROS 68k too?
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Offline nicholas

Re: Sneak Peak on the next AROS Vision with Magellan
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2013, 03:36:45 PM »
Quote from: OlafS3;742639
new (small) updated. I just tested OWB (AROS Edition)

It works (with Javascript disabled)


Very nice! :D

Quote from: OlafS3;742641
Scalos worked but only with JIT disabled (the reason why I never used it). If it is faster (or not) is not known to me. Magellan seems pretty fast (expecially when using it in filemode). StackAttack2 is already in my distribution, 68060 and MMULib are in (MMU works at least in Emu but only when JIT disabled). TLSFMem functionality is integrated in AROS 68k already.

Thanks for the info.  I'll make sure to install MMULib and MuRedux as I have an 060 and it will probably fall over without them.  If it doesn't work I will try it with the 68060.library, CyberPatcher and TagLIFE from Phase5.

Have you considered using the opensourced dos.library and scsi.device and a few other 68k replacement OS components that are on EAB from Don Adan and others?  User mfilos here on this forum will be the best person to talk to about those projects I think.

Also I will try my registered copy of the 060 optimized HSMathLibs to see if they work on AROS 68k and report back to you.
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Offline nicholas

Re: Sneak Peak on the next AROS Vision with Magellan
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2013, 04:00:19 PM »
Quote from: OlafS3;742646
thanx. I am always grateful for feedback. Opensourced? I thought they have reassembled the original libraries and I am a little cautious when I integrate such components.


I think like PeterK'k icon.library there is no CBM code left in some of those replacements as they've also been modified heavily now.  I'm not certain though so it's probably best to ask the authors of each one.
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Offline nicholas

Re: Sneak Peak on the next AROS Vision with Magellan
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2013, 04:08:29 PM »
Also, may I make a suggestion for you to ask Ken for permission to use his famous 'Ken's Icons' set as the default icons set in AROS Vision as it would make look a bit more like a genuine Amiga OS.  Although that's just my subjective and aesthetic opinion of course. :)

http://www.five-star.com/icons.htm
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Offline nicholas

Re: Sneak Peak on the next AROS Vision with Magellan
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2013, 10:20:35 PM »
Quote from: wawrzon;742685
magellan is the fastest, sclaos is actually working too but there are some deadlock situations that are particularly visible with scalos to resolve. i advise to use magellan for the time being.


aros provides own tlsf implementation that isnt yet enabled on 68k. from my experience (chris hodges) tlsf was usually compatible with genuine 68k software. id wait till its implemented. stackattack was working.


no need for 060.library whatsoever. aros has its own implementation that gets automatically enabled via setpatch after system recognition. thats great about aros, no cpu library mess anymore!


no need for that as well. it wasnt working before i dont know how it is now, but aros takes advantage of mmu where possible. enforcer functionality is implemented and can be enabled in startup sequence using this option:
arosbootstrap DEBUGMMU
segtracker should work with it should you want to debug non stripped executables.


Thanks for the info wawa, much appreciated.

How is compatibility with WHDLoad games? Not that I play games very often tbh
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