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Re: A-EON Technology: Introducing Tabor and the A1222
« on: November 03, 2015, 04:51:41 AM »
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Aladdin 4D works fine as it is in OS4 but the other, not sure about Movie Setter, will need to be run via UAE.

Petunia, the 68k emulator for AmigaOS 4, is written in PPC assembler likely using the PPC standard FPU to emulate the 68k FPU. Petunia would need a major update to support the Tabor's non-standard FPU and a simple compile is not possible. Not updating Petunia and going through the FPU traps may work but could be slow.
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Re: A-EON Technology: Introducing Tabor and the A1222
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2015, 03:37:55 PM »
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UlimatePPC /040 project...everyone complained about this ppc chip issue at the time too. (no support and "wrong" ppc chip) so it didn't happen.

But after OS4.1 is ported over to the A1222, won't that mean the UlimatePPC project
would have the support it didn't have before and we with 4000/3000 could have "NEW"
ppc /040 cards???


Yes, in theory, most of the huge amount of work to support the dual core P1022 would also support the single core P1013. I believe the non-standard FPU is the same for both.
 

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Re: A-EON Technology: Introducing Tabor and the A1222
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2015, 01:36:37 AM »
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45mips and 3mflops under linux euae?


3.4 FPU MFlops in SysInfo is about 3x the speed of the 68882. The Tabor trapping all FPU instructions would likely drop the MFlops below 6888x performance levels which is awful compared to the 68040 and 68060 FPU.

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In response to the the state of things and using PPC because of past decisions; it is what it is. AmigaOS is still developed BeOS isn't.


Unsustainable. Hyperion was practically bankrupt which means its "state of things" is no more sustainable than for the Be.

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PPC chips are available and new machines are being designed and made so it is a win of sorts.


Unsustainable. There is only one PPC manufacturer left for small quantities of PPC processors and the selection of embedded processors is currently limited as can be seen with the handicapped Tabor board's non-standard FPU. The last PPC manufacturer was just bought out so any manufacturing longevity promises are probably from different management.

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Would Amiga companies make Amiga hardware if Hyperion supported x86/x64?


Unsustainable. Companies don't make new Amiga hardware unless they are partners with A-EON/Hyperion. The PPC Amiga market is too small for new affordable hardware and controlled by access and support for AmigaOS 4. There is new 68k FPGA hardware but it is unsupported by A-EON/Hyperion. Moving to x86_64 would transition to an all software company which has to compete with Windows and Haiku the BeOS descendant. Then we would see who would win an AmigaOS vs BeOS competition for most dead ;).

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No. Would there be any money left to fund the AmiStore and 'Amiga' software development? No. Could this change in the future? Probably.


Unsustainable. Affordable standard hardware would generate more software development than subsidizing software development. I am highly skeptical that the Tabor board is a game changer but sells numbers will tell the story.