X-Surf - Zorro - unable to open x-surf.device

[MikeB]

I having issues getting the x-surf card working, i have tried the testcard which detects fine.
But Miami is saying unable to open x-surf.device unit 0.

I have tried a different slot and also checked the envarc settings in sana2.

I running out of ideas ... HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did you use the install script included on the CD for the X-Surf for Miami?  I did, and it worked fine.  It creates a custom config file for X-Surf.

[MikeB]

yes i did.

i even tried genesis and that has the same problem.

Did the xsurf.device file get copied from the cd to the DEVS: directory?  I think there is one.  Sorry, can't be more detailed right now as I'm at work and my Amiga's at home.

[MikeB]

yes, i tried both Devs: and Devs:Networks

i also tried full duplex mode as well.

What machine you running your x-surf in?

[sTix]

i sometimes have the same problem with my a3000..
when i get that message at bootup i just reboot and
then voila!

i dont have a clue what the problem is either, but
like i said for me it works most of the time. once
the miggy has booted theres never any problems with
the x-surf.      

I've used it in a 3000 and a 4000.

It sounds like the same problem I had with my first X-surf card.  I installed it in my A2000 and got the same error from MiamiDX that your getting.  My 2000 has a GVP 040/33 (64mb), Picasso II & a Flicker Flixer.  The only time the card worked was when I pulled everything out but the x-surf.  Not a good solution.

I emailed Jens Schoenfeld and he advised me that there had been some problems with the early rev 1.0 boards.  I bought card from Software Hut & they replaced it (not real graciously, but they did replace it.).

I've lost the email from Jens, but IIR the later boards (the good ones) could be identified because the socket above the zorro connector was labeled on the socket itself.    Mine is labeled '3M 9935".  The card itself is still a rev 1.0.

Once I got a card that worked at all it worked great.
 :-)

[Roj]

You don't need xsurf.device. You need the Miami z2-dp8390.mni device driver.

I don't even think I have xsurf.device installed and mine works just fine.

Okay, now that I'm home and on the Amiga, what I see is the following:

x-surf.device is in DEVS:Networks

Miami is set for SANA-II Ethernet for the interface type.
Miami Driver is x-surf.device Unit 0

Not really sure what else in there would matter.
There's SANA-II Parameters, but I would assume those are default or setup by the X-Surf install program.

[amigau]

Note that sometimes it's the bitmap on your hard drive and nothing to do with the network card.  The post talking about rebooting and it working after a reboot is likely due to this, would be my guess.

When you are in Miami and you 'query device', does it allow you to?  If not, then I'd guess the problem would be the hard drive bitmap or something, likely not the x-surf.device.

But also try the MNI driver, although if memory serves, to get the right one you have to download it off the Nordic Global site, because the earlier MNI driver that ships with the Miami package isn't the right one (trust me on this).

the download page is here:

http://www.nordicglobal.com/swdl.html

the link for that driver is 3rd from the bottom in the Miami section, above the Miami Deluxe section.

as to 'fixing' the hard drive, what I'd do first is just turn the machine off for 5 min. or so, letting everything power down and cool off.  Then fire it back up and try again, remembering that AmigaDOS will validate the disk again upon bootup in probably >90% of all cases.

Worst case scenario, use Disksalv or QB Tools to fix the disk but try the reboot, the 'query device' feature in Miami, and the MNI driver first before doing Disksalv or similar.

good luck and keep us posted.

kevin orme
amiga university
www.amigau.com

Good luck and

[amigau]

Note that also in some cases the X-Surf 'hates' A2000 accelerators - I tried to use one in a couple different A2000s that have accels in them (TekMagic 060/50, essentially a later version of an earlier GVP design) and the computer wouldn't even boot with both cards in the machine at the same time.

So, I just put the X-surf in the A3000 and put the Ariadne back in the A2000 and all was well.

kevin orme
amiga university
www.amigau.com

[JurassicCamper]

Give it a soft reset....

Take all your other zorro cards out.

Try it in the 1st slot.

It was the same on my Mickronik Z2 busboard.

I eventually found a combination that worked.

It worked fist time without my multiface3 but need a soft reset with it plugged in.

I got rid of it and bought a mediator.

[carls]

To make sure that the card works at all, you could try the IDE interface on it. Plug in a spare hard drive (and don't forget to put the driver software in sys:expansion/).

[MikeB]

I have the z2-dp8390.mni driver, but im not using Miami deluxe just miami.

I have tried but does not work.
Strange thing is the TestCard shows the card, other config shows the card and the hub shows the ethernet communicating.
But Miami and Genesis dont seem to detect the x-surf.device.