Amiga, Inc: Close That Open Hardware!

[AmiGR]

HAH! The last time it was on show was at the Aachen show, with 30 machines running it nicely.
Check your facts. The pointer was jumping cause
debug was on and (afaik) driver probs on that show
you were talking about. MorphOS is running QUITE
nicely and everyday, more people are able to tell you.

But tracking down AmigaOS/AmigaOne-fans doesn't help you!
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You don't know me and neither you know if I do what
you say.

[AmiGR]

Ever think that Eyetech said there wasn't a bug because they knew the issue was being fixed? I seriously doubt that MAI implemented fixes for the chipset in one week. (And since Eyetech is partnered with MAI, they would have known about it.)
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Ehm, I know up to who made the fix specifically, so
don't bother.

Wouldn't one also think that Genesi would have some insight in to the fix too?
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Genesi knew about this for a long long time. They were the ones to prove that the bug exists. MAI
weren't able to reproduce it till Gerald Carda visited
them and showed em. Also, guess why he spend
2 weeks there .

Seems that if they're doing good good business with MAI they would have been told about it.. Yet they put all the spin around the "april" fix and make it appear that the Teron boards aren't going to function properly without it.

The April fix is not the same as the fix Eyetech has.
The April fixes that bug (+others) without the need
of software tweaks. The fix eyetech has is an
HW+SW one.

[AmiGR]

I didn't blame you about anything. I just believe that
liking AOne+OS4 doesn't mean that you should
worship Amiga Inc as well. Yes, I do like Peg and
MOS and I will buy that combo. On the other hand
I will also buy OS4.

[AmiGR]

I'm upset cause some people reply (no, not helgis) as if I killed their mother every time I say anything
bad about Amiga Inc. Amiga Inc doesn't deserve to be worshiped. Anyway, I don't worship anybody and
I think that worshiping any company is just stupid.

[AmiGR]

I didn't see anyone doing like THAT.
BTW, you seem to think that there are only 2 camps.
You classify anyone against Amiga Inc as a MorphOS
user. Since when cheesegrate and Dammy are MorphOS users?

[AmiGR]

You was in the plural number.

And about not seeing the other side... I was in that
side for A LONG time... I know what happens and
that's why I'm not an A Inc fanatic anymore. Yes, I
was at some time. I support the Pegasos and
MorphOS and I'll support OS4 but I'll never support
Amiga Inc again.

[AmiGR]

What a minute... Genesi has not made clear their licensing terms. We do not know if Genesi will require you to purchase a Pegasos in order to obtain MorphOS. We do not know if MorphOS will ever be released as a retail product.
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No, many people know and you can ask Genesi if you
want. It will be released as retail, but not yet.

I can't say whether Dave_P is lying when he says that Genesi told him they would not allow MorphOS to be unbundle or not. But then again, I haven't seen Genesi sell MorphOS on anything other than the Pegasos. So, I can only assume that Genesi are backing the same strategy as AI/Hyperion/Eyetech.
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Wrong, Amiga Inc doesn't let anyone install MorphOS
on a machine with AmigaOS4. Genesi allows dual
booting, they just want MorphOS to be in the package
and/or preinstalled, just like the PC driver CDs that
come with motherboards.

BTW, AFAIK, AI/Hyperion haven't ruled out the Pegasos or Mac (alothough Apple may have something to say about this) or any other PPC solution either. But they have made it clear licensing will be required.

Amiga Inc DID rule them out with their licence scheme.
Do you expect Apple to sign anything with Amiga Inc?
No. So no OS4 for Macs.
Do you expect Genesi to do so? No, they did sign
something like that with A. Inc. once and they've
regret it.

[AmiGR]

Plural does not mean everyone. Everyone means everyone. you need to touch up on your understanding of English.
Other side does not mean plural either, cos the other side could be just one person.
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In the specific case it is NOT one person. It's a whole
bunch. You meant the whole bunch.  You could very
well be "you people".
It's right grammatically, but my mistake is not that not everybody does this.
Sorry about that, it's my mistake.

[AmiGR]

I already told you the REAL case... They CAN sell
OS4 with Pegasos and preinstall it, as long as
MorphOS is also in the package. If OS4 is preinstalled
MorphOS must also be preinstalled.
They don't restrict anything else. Amiga Inc on the
other hand didn't want OS4 to be WITH MorphOS.