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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: Niding on October 27, 2014, 12:09:51 AM

Title: A1200 Unable to install CD Rom
Post by: Niding on October 27, 2014, 12:09:51 AM
http://www.vesalia.de/e_amigaslimcddrive%5B8287%5D.htm

When I Scan using "FindDevice" im told I have 1 Matzhita CR Rom CR-175 Revision 5NCC

Its powered, spools up during the scan but the OS doesnt seem to find it (nor when using Dopus)

I do have the preinstalled IDEFIX that came with AmigaKit CF HD.

Any ideas as to how I can mount the CD rom?

A1200/30
Rom 3.1
WB 3.0 (39.29)
Kickstart 40.68
Title: Re: A1200 Unable to install CD Rom
Post by: carvedeye on October 27, 2014, 12:36:24 AM
Quote from: Niding;775747
http://www.vesalia.de/e_amigaslimcddrive%5B8287%5D.htm

When I Scan using "FindDevice" im told I have 1 Mat%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!a CR Rom CR-175 Revision 5NCC

Its powered, spools up during the scan but the OS doesnt seem to find it (nor when using Dopus)

I do have the preinstalled IDEFIX that came with AmigaKit CF HD.

Any ideas as to how I can mount the CD rom?

A1200/30
Rom 3.1
WB 3.0 (39.29)
Kickstart 40.68


What have you got set as, Master or Slave?
Title: Re: A1200 Unable to install CD Rom
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on October 27, 2014, 03:42:51 AM
How is it connected?
Title: Re: A1200 Unable to install CD Rom
Post by: danbeaver on October 27, 2014, 04:44:33 AM
After installing IDEFix97, and the setup program completing, is the mount file in the DEVS: DosDrivers directory, or the Storage:DosDrivers?  The typical mount command in the Startup-sequence will only mount the ones in DEVS.
Title: Re: A1200 Unable to install CD Rom
Post by: mechy on October 27, 2014, 03:03:51 PM
Quote from: Niding;775747
http://www.vesalia.de/e_amigaslimcddrive%5B8287%5D.htm

When I Scan using "FindDevice" im told I have 1 Mat%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!a CR Rom CR-175 Revision 5NCC

Its powered, spools up during the scan but the OS doesnt seem to find it (nor when using Dopus)

I do have the preinstalled IDEFIX that came with AmigaKit CF HD.

Any ideas as to how I can mount the CD rom?

A1200/30
Rom 3.1
WB 3.0 (39.29)
Kickstart 40.68

Have you installed a cd filesystem to use the drive such as ASIMCDFS etc?
Title: Re: A1200 Unable to install CD Rom
Post by: F0LLETT on October 27, 2014, 05:38:58 PM
I dont think he has anything installed.

We dont preinstall IDEFIX, the setup files are on HDD: for you to decide if you want to install it or not.
Once he installs IDEFIX, then it will work fine.
Title: Re: A1200 Unable to install CD Rom
Post by: doctorq on October 27, 2014, 05:43:32 PM
When FindDevice brings up weird names like that it's usually due to a failing CD drive. Replace the drive and FindDevice should pick up the right name and you can continue the installation.
Title: Re: A1200 Unable to install CD Rom
Post by: F0LLETT on October 27, 2014, 05:53:27 PM
Quote from: doctorq;775840
When FindDevice brings up weird names like that it's usually due to a failing CD drive. Replace the drive and FindDevice should pick up the right name and you can continue the installation.


Thats the problem it cant continue install, if he hasnt even run installer.
Title: Re: A1200 Unable to install CD Rom
Post by: doctorq on October 27, 2014, 08:51:29 PM
Quote from: F0LLETT;775841
Thats the problem it cant continue install, if he hasnt even run installer.


FindDevice is launched during installation. The problem is the hardware, not the software.
Title: Re: A1200 Unable to install CD Rom
Post by: danbeaver on October 27, 2014, 09:19:50 PM
One can run the FindDevice program alone by clicking its icon; I too have the suspicion that the poster has not run through IDEFix97 program, hence my questions.  Screwed up firmware results can be caused by a loose cable, too.
Title: Re: A1200 Unable to install CD Rom
Post by: bluewater41 on October 27, 2014, 09:41:43 PM
Hi All. I bought the same drive from Vesalia I had same problem, after i contacted them found out it was seup as a slave. i never could get it to work! I gave up!

bluewater41
Title: Re: A1200 Unable to install CD Rom
Post by: danbeaver on October 27, 2014, 09:52:47 PM
I doubt it wouldn't work because it was set as a SLAVE, (did you get out the leather bindings, chains and whips?)
Title: Re: A1200 Unable to install CD Rom
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on October 27, 2014, 09:53:52 PM
Quote from: bluewater41;775884
Hi All. I bought the same drive from Vesalia I had same problem, after i contacted them found out it was seup as a slave. i never could get it to work! I gave up!
 
 I'm not familiar with this particular drive but nearly all IDE devices can be changed from Master to Slave configuration (and vice versa) with a jumper.  Typically on an A1200 (unless you've added some additional type of controller) you only have one channel.  Your hard drive would be Master, and CD drive would be Slave.  Problem is there's so many different ways of attaching a drive to an A1200, different drivers & software packages, and even what version of the OS you're using (3.1 vs 3.9, for example), can make a big difference.
 
 It pretty much comes down to trial and error, although I will say that in my experience with Amiga CD drives, the easiest way to configure them was in OS 3.9.  I'd just boot off the 3.9 recovery floppy and it would detect the drive automatically and install the rest of the software off the CD.  I had no problems with long filenames or extensions like I did under 3.1, with various other software packages.  Your mileage may vary, good luck, try posting a picture of the jumper settings on the back of the drive might be my last bit of advice right now! :)
Title: Re: A1200 Unable to install CD Rom
Post by: Niding on October 27, 2014, 09:59:19 PM
Hah, I posted the original post without previewing it.

The wordfilter scrambled it.

Going thru the suggestions in this thread.

Ah now it comes back to me.

The install floppy provided by Vesalia; installation seemed to work out until putting in registration provided on front of floppy. It didnt progress past that.
Now im trying to install from the CF drive provided by Amigakit. The script "Installsoftware (0%). Working on installation Starting AddIDEfixstartup.
Just stays on 0%.

The drive doesnt have a "slave" jumper like the old harddrives got.
Title: Re: A1200 Unable to install CD Rom
Post by: danbeaver on October 27, 2014, 10:03:57 PM
Quick question, are you installing a CD or a CF drive?
Title: Re: A1200 Unable to install CD Rom
Post by: Niding on October 27, 2014, 10:13:58 PM
The CF drive worked from the get go. No problems at all :)

The cable got additional slot for IDE drive, so I got a CD Rom drive to use.
The CD rom drive doesnt have jumpers, so if thats the issue, then im screwed :)

I have ordered Jens's USB hardware, and already got the CF transfer kit from Amigakit, so getting stuff from the Inet aint much of an issue. Installing stuff from CD rom on the other hand...
Title: Re: A1200 Unable to install CD Rom
Post by: danbeaver on October 27, 2014, 10:30:34 PM
*Then try running the IDEFix software (it has a registration code on Cloanto's Amiga Forever disc, too) and see what happens.  All my CD and DVD drives are Slaves, with the hard drives as their dominatrix.
Title: Re: A1200 Unable to install CD Rom
Post by: Niding on October 27, 2014, 10:47:04 PM
In the startup sequence, the lines;

IF EXISTS SYS:C/IDEFIX
    C:IDEFIX
ENDIF

This freezes the loading of workbench. Once I ; them out, workbench loads normally.
Title: Re: A1200 Unable to install CD Rom
Post by: danbeaver on October 28, 2014, 01:19:07 AM
Yeah, don't know why that is there, but remove it as stated and reinstall IDEFix'97; it will replace the faulty logic behind crap like that and likely get you  running.
Title: Re: A1200 Unable to install CD Rom
Post by: F0LLETT on October 28, 2014, 02:28:44 PM
Some CF's and CD ROM drives dont mix and when IDEFIX starts its kills system.

You dont need IDEFIX to use CD ROM. If its on same channel as long as you have CD0: and filesystem, it will work fine.
If its on the second channel then use atapi.device to activate second channel along with CD0: and filesystem.