New A-EON Technology Website now live!

[the_leander]

If you rub that knob thing it gets longer.

"Xena is not simply a strap-on extra..."

Whew! glad that's cleared up.

The dick sliding into your browser is so freaking appropriate. Bend over all ye AOS4 faithfuls. They didn't design it this way by accident, I guarantee you.

I have a very dirty mind. :lol:

[the_leander]

I diasgree.  You cant please everyone all of the time.  We have a thing called freedom of speech( though its getting errored all the time in the uk) which lets people say what they like even if someone might get their panties in a bunch at someone elses comments or views.  People shouldnt be scare3d to say things because of somone elses feelings.  And yes as far as I am concerened this covers eveything

Quoted for MF truth.

Some people seriously need to man the hell up.

Trust me, I would really love to test your theory!

The last person to try that line was Delshey who aimed it at me. I was laughing like a loon for a good few minutes at his antics, and absolutely eating the carpet when the banhammer arrived.

I suspect if JJ is anything like me he wasn't much different.  

 but to partake in that type of behaviour would be childish and disrespectful and would not reflect the views of the many loyal Amigans on this site...

"Amigans". See I equate this phrase to trekkies. You have fans of star trek, just as you have fans and users of the Amiga, and then you get "Amigans".

now are you starting to get the point or should I ask Wayne (or Dick Van Dyke) to get the pointy hat for you

That's right JJ, the person who's been here for all of 5 minutes is absolutely correct, anyone who disagrees with his butthurt is a stupid head. Be told!

:laughing:

Back on topic: The website is a joke in every sense of the word. XMOS might make for a great micro-controller, but I really can't see any benefit for having it given that the tools to take full advantage of it (IE ones that'll give you more capabilities then a PIC chip would) are closed source and surprisingly not available for the Amiga.

[the_leander]

For a microcontroller, XMOS's chips can make 32 Sprites.  I think that is more than the Amiga ever did.  This is probably not the chip but one of their versions has four cores and is capable of 400 mips.

Your point is pointless.

Way to not read my post.

given that the tools to take full advantage of it (IE ones that'll give you more capabilities then a PIC chip would) are closed source and surprisingly not available for the Amiga.

Read and understand. The open source tools (if they can even be ported) only offer a tiny subset of the chips capabilities. And any graphics card you plug into the X1000 is going to be several orders of magnitude more capable on every level. So what exactly is the purpose of this chip on a desktop motherboard?

[the_leander]

What chip would you suggest that they use?

For what exactly?

This is what I'm trying to get across - I don't see any valid reason for that chip to be on the board.

If it's as a graphics chip then the amount of MIPs it computes is utterly irrelevant as it has no FPU and no access to system ram.

As an IO chip.. Great, but why the need for CPU like features onboard? Is the primary CPU that wheezy?

If it's for hacking about and playing with, then it's all but useless as the closed source drivers are not available and the opensource ones only offer access to a small subset of the chips (limited) capabilities.

No one anywhere has given a decent explanation for this chip being built into a desktop computer.

Oh and whilst we're on the subject of expensive and practically useless components of the X1000: Xorro? May I remind you all that the last re-imagination of Zorro was sold by Eyetech as a bridgeboard for the A1200, and in all the years it was on sale it had precisely 1 card ever made for it - a PCI bridgeboard, which was next to useless as Zorro 4 had no DMA capabilities whatsoever.

[the_leander]

https://electronics.wesrch.com/User_...1261077219.pdf
- IMO it's 100% sure that AOS4 will have all the needed xcore developer tools

The opensource ones maybe, the closed ones?

Good luck with that...

[the_leander]

Yeah and I seem to recall "No one will EVER need more than 640k of memory",

Ironic given that you'd need 4 XMOS XS1-G4's to have that much memory available

Bringing seemingly unrelated things together could very well be the next new wave of computing...  (Not saying that XMOS is going to revolutionize the world, but just because you or I don't envision a use for it yet in no way guarantees it as a flop.)

I somehow very much doubt that the coming together of this weird ass DSP-alike processor is going to set the world alight, especially without the developer tools to actually make any real use of it.

[the_leander]

There are 100% sure some use for xena, but would it make a difference? Or could it be something revolutionary??? I doubt that, but who knows

I hope that Hyperion has some good ideas for it?

Thing is, the X1000 already has a bus that is widely used for all manner of exotic things: USB.

Xorro as it stands has only one useful purpose - as a gimmick to help convince fanbois too incurious to know better to part with their cash.

Would it be possible to use it as a real time rendering engine? That would offer cool looking games etc? It wouldn't need to be movie level rendering and still offer something new

Err, not even close, hell even if it could access system ram you essentially have a chip that has roughly the same performance in MIPS as a Pentium Pro, only without an FPU.