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Re: MorphOS noob. School me!
« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2014, 05:44:13 AM »
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OP, are you into games at all? I love the games by: Cherry Darling (Voxel Bird and Ace of Hearts). Voxel Bird is completely free (Flappy Bird style game but in 3d).

http://www.cherry-darling.net/

Also, if you want to use basic screen dragging, you can use Dragon. Lucy is for Transparent Windows.

http://amigazeux.net/dragon/req.php

http://amigazeux.org/index.php?module=News&type=user&func=display&sid=74

I'm not that into games, but Dragon is interesting.


So I tried to install the Pack Chrysalis 3.7.1 on two different clean installs, but I get errors at startup.

Error 6 in line 124: Unterminated comment
Command returned 10/6

I don't see anything that tells me what has the error and I see nothing I could have done to cause it.

Any ideas or should I just write that pack off as crapware?

Edit: Ok, so I found crabum.rexx in the wbstartup folder and removing it makes that error go away.  I don't see anything noticable in line 127 though...

Edit 2: There WAS a missing ' a few lines up though.  Adding that seems to have fixed the issue.
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Re: MorphOS noob. School me!
« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2014, 05:56:03 AM »
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Edit: Ok, so I found crabum.rexx in the wbstartup folder and removing it makes that error go away.  I don't see anything noticable in line 127 though...


Hmm... I don't remember if Chrysalis pack comes with working rexxsyslib.library or not. Although it doesn't sound exactly like an error because of it, but you could check if you have rexxsyslib.library in sys:libs/ (and renamed from use from mossys:libs/).

Check the details here on tip #1

Anyway if you're into tuning the systems yourself for your taste, I'd go without Chrysalis pack, but if you want everything on the plate or want to check what's available, then the pack is ok.
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Re: MorphOS noob. School me!
« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2014, 06:09:56 AM »
Wow, OWB even works with my google drive!

Not only can I get my files like rexxsyslib.library, but there's a good chance I could use this OS on a daily basis.
 

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Re: MorphOS noob. School me!
« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2014, 07:35:29 AM »
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Wow, OWB even works with my google drive!

Not only can I get my files like rexxsyslib.library, but there's a good chance I could use this OS on a daily basis.



Easiest way to get rexxsyslib is to use Grunch :)
 

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Re: MorphOS noob. School me!
« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2014, 07:36:01 AM »
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Wow, OWB even works with my google drive!

Not only can I get my files like rexxsyslib.library, but there's a good chance I could use this OS on a daily basis.


It's pretty awesome isn't it.  Welcome to the club.  Runs much better than OS X on same hardware.  I have triple boot OS X, morphos and ubuntu on a powerbook and Mac mini just for odd occasion. I stay away from the pack these days and just use grunch.

Have  fun.
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Re: MorphOS noob. School me!
« Reply #34 on: September 26, 2014, 07:40:58 AM »
Yeah, this is pretty cool.

I went ahead and registed since the timeout was becoming a problem.  Now I'm just waiting on a key file.

I'm still not sold on this keyboard, and although the pack is pretty cool, it installed a BUNCH of extra stuff that I'll never take the time to figure out. I may reinstall yet again.

So is there a google drive client yet?

Edit: I must be tired. This post is all over the map lol
 

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Re: MorphOS noob. School me!
« Reply #35 on: September 26, 2014, 07:48:56 AM »
I think previously PackChrysalis broke something on my MosBook setup as OWB started to fail with web sites secure login. Now after MOS update to 3.7 the system does not boot every time (sometimes ends up in grey screen). So, perhaps I should do clean start.

(just a little painfull to backup the data with USB1.0 speed of my old PowerBook HW. Especially when the USB is not rock solid either ((or perhaps my USB issues are only with Android devices where transfers hang with multiple files)))


Anyway I'm so far pretty happy with the 50eur HW investment (1GhzG4, 1GB RAM, new DVD drive, brand new battery+spare battery) with it's defects (no sound, weird keyboard things, etc...).
(silly how much faster it is than my newer 1.8Ghz LinuxMintDebianEdition laptop HW)


btw. licence price for those half supported PowerBooks could/should be smaller than 111eur.
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Re: MorphOS noob. School me!
« Reply #36 on: September 26, 2014, 11:28:45 AM »
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I think previously PackChrysalis broke something on my MosBook setup as OWB started to fail with web sites secure login. Now after MOS update to 3.7 the system does not boot every time (sometimes ends up in grey screen). So, perhaps I should do clean start.

(just a little painfull to backup the data with USB1.0 speed of my old PowerBook HW. Especially when the USB is not rock solid either ((or perhaps my USB issues are only with Android devices where transfers hang with multiple files)))


Anyway I'm so far pretty happy with the 50eur HW investment (1GhzG4, 1GB RAM, new DVD drive, brand new battery+spare battery) with it's defects (no sound, weird keyboard things, etc...).
(silly how much faster it is than my newer 1.8Ghz LinuxMintDebianEdition laptop HW)


btw. licence price for those half supported PowerBooks could/should be smaller than 111eur.



What is not supported on powerbook.  I am running on powerbook and have not found anything that is not supported or does not work.  Sounds like you either have a bad install or faulty hardware ?
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Re: MorphOS noob. School me!
« Reply #37 on: September 26, 2014, 12:43:32 PM »
@KimmoK

Odd. As far as I know USB 2.0 should be supported, as well as sound and keyboard. The only unreleased feature I've heard of on a "supported" hardware is Wifi and non native screen modes (which are now fixed). MorphOS Team is pretty strict about not releasing stuff where important features is missing.

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Re: MorphOS noob. School me!
« Reply #38 on: September 26, 2014, 02:39:09 PM »
@jj & yasu

More about old powerbooks:
http://www.morphzone.info/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=9960&forum=11#111747

Home page still does not mention that audio does not work etc.
http://www.morphos-team.net/hardware

@yasu
The HW only has USB1.1.
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Re: MorphOS noob. School me!
« Reply #39 on: September 26, 2014, 03:38:39 PM »
Wifi works on both powerbooks and mac mini now
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Re: MorphOS noob. School me!
« Reply #40 on: September 26, 2014, 03:40:05 PM »
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@jj & yasu

More about old powerbooks:
http://www.morphzone.info/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=9960&forum=11#111747

Home page still does not mention that audio does not work etc.
http://www.morphos-team.net/hardware

@yasu
The HW only has USB1.1.


Sorry should have read properly mine is the very last model so everything works luckily.  I understand there are issues with the older versions of the powerbook
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Re: MorphOS noob. School me!
« Reply #41 on: September 26, 2014, 03:59:20 PM »
@KimmoK

I did not know that. Still, no so sound sounds weird (no pun intended).

[edit] Forgot a "no".
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Re: MorphOS noob. School me!
« Reply #42 on: September 26, 2014, 05:06:42 PM »
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sound sounds weird (no pun intended).


Yeah, no pun intended, huh? :lol:

If I'm going to forget the pack, besides Grunch, what are your must have additions?

I wasn't a fan of that shortcut bar at the bottom, but would like something for easy access to commonly used apps. That one just didn't react in a way that I found comfortable, even after changing some settings.

Also, the MorphOS SDK looks really complete and even has what appears to be a decent editor included.

Is there any benefit to picking up something like CubicIDE or is that even the best option?

I'm planning to write things for both MorphOS and Amiga 68k if that matters and I prefer vbcc over gcc where possible.
 

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Re: MorphOS noob. School me!
« Reply #43 on: September 26, 2014, 05:15:20 PM »
@hieroglyph

Yes, I even misspelled :p

Good question. Depends on what you want to do. But with Grunch you can look up a lot of useful programs to install.

I don't like bars so I use a custom menu via Crabum instead. Very practical when you use a pop up menu.

Can't help you with CubicIDE nor programming. I'm trying to learn Hollywood :p
 

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Re: MorphOS noob. School me!
« Reply #44 from previous page: September 26, 2014, 05:29:32 PM »
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I think previously PackChrysalis broke something on my MosBook setup as OWB started to fail with web sites secure login. Now after MOS update to 3.7 the system does not boot every time (sometimes ends up in grey screen). So, perhaps I should do clean start.

(just a little painfull to backup the data with USB1.0 speed of my old PowerBook HW. Especially when the USB is not rock solid either ((or perhaps my USB issues are only with Android devices where transfers hang with multiple files)))

You could backup to other partition (Work: for example) and manually format the System partition and then do new install with manual partitioning option, which shouldn't affect to that Work: etc because you already have correct partitions and no need to touch them. I'm pretty sure it did work that way, but I can test again before you start to blame me if I didn't remember it right ;)

Quote from: JJ;773944
What is not supported on powerbook.  I am running on powerbook and have not found anything that is not supported or does not work.  Sounds like you either have a bad install or faulty hardware ?

Some older Powerbooks are missing audio.. those titanium models which weren't earlier supported at all, but now they are enabled even though not all features do work. If you read careful the hardware compatibility page, Powerbooks' on-board audio isn't told to be supported at all, so basically it's just bonus that it works on aluminium ones ;) Anyway that's why you are forced to test the machine before you can register so that you know what you get. At least KimmoK knew that audio doesn't work on his Powerbook before paying the registration, but of course wouldn't hurt to have that kind of things more clearly said on hw page.

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I wasn't a fan of that shortcut bar at the bottom, but would like something for easy access to commonly used apps. That one just didn't react in a way that I found comfortable, even after changing some settings.

Do you mean "shortcut bar" from Chrysalis? Anyway, you have Panels in Ambient settings and you can configure your own bars with those.
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