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[jj]

Don't see how not liking you makes me a hypocrite ? Please explain

[Franko]

Don't see how not liking you makes me a hypocrite ? Please explain

I never said you not liking me made you a hypocrite, I call you a hypocrite based on these posts and the fact that you seem to respond to me personally in a lot of yours posts !!!

and now you suddenly claim ...

If I am 100% honest I don't see Franko's participation on Amiga.org as beneficial in anyway shape or form.

I refer you to these posts...

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=610104&postcount=15

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=610713&postcount=79

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=576352&postcount=6

Now if that's not being a hypocrite then gawd knows what is...

[AmigaNG]

Why would I support Amiga Shows, there hasn't been in my neck of the woods for at least 15 years

Why would I support Amiga Emulation I don't use it and never will

You may like Amiga Forever but to me it's a program for PCs and I have no interest in PCs whatsoever, I've got nothing against Cloanto I bought and paid for PPaint a long, long time ago and I've even bought Amiga Forever about 2 years back when I was considering actually buying a PC until I came to my senses...

What I was trying to point out is that Cloanto is only able to support Amiga Shows, Amiga related bountys, Amiga Users, and future develop their software through sales of Amiga Forever and it roms, if your offering them for free, how do you expect them to contiue to support such areas?

On the question of support why do you not help to support Amiga.org  yourself by paying for a membership, I mean you use it often enough to  post your views so the least you could do is help support them..

Why, when the web site free, unlike the Roms.

I do like amiga,org and if it ever really needed money to say online I might help it out, and I have donated to a few bounty and bought a lot of games and attended a few amiga shows, hope to run amiga web site soon myself (out of my own money) and run a you tube account and planning to get an OS4 machine this year so I believe I support the Amiga community quite well thank you.


PS: Franko I dont want to get into a war with you over this, I do understand what you are saying, maybe you should ask Cloanto on if there could be somekind of soultion for users who just want to buy the Roms the workbench disks, but I think £30 is not much to ask for every AmigaOS from 1.0 to 3.0 and all the other extras your getting, you must of thought this your self at one point to buy Amiga Forever.

[kd7ota]

I just sharted alittle.

[Franko]

What I was trying to point out is that Cloanto is only able to support Amiga Shows, Amiga related bountys, Amiga Users, and future develop their software through sales of Amiga Forever and it roms, if your offering them for free, how do you expect them to contiue to support such areas?


Why, when the web site free, unlike the Roms.

I do like amiga,org and if it ever really needed money to say online I might help it out, and I have donated to a few bounty and bought a lot of games and attended a few amiga shows, hope to run amiga web site soon myself (out of my own money) and run a you tube account and planning to get an OS4 machine this year so I believe I support the Amiga community quite well thank you.

If Amiga.org did not need any monetary help from it's users then what would be the point in them asking for a very reasonable fee to have a full membership, or for them to have a section for folk to donate money towards maintaining the site

So instead of claiming you support the Amiga community put your money where your mouth is and either donate or pay for a full membership, as I say you do use it very regularly...

In the past 25 years I have bought countless Amiga games and attended some shows, but as there hasn't been a show anywhere near where I live for at least 15 years then why would I choose to pay to support shows that I cannot attend

You don't have to pay for a YouTube account so what does that have to do with anything

And what does you buying an "OS4 machine" have to do with supporting the Amiga Community

You really have some strange ways of looking at things...

[AmigaNG]

just encase you missed it

Why, when the web site free, unlike the Roms
your very cleverly moving off topic, you can say I dont support the Amiga community, I dont care, but I dont hurt company by making Roms free, this is all I'm saying. This is my last post on the matter because I dont want to get into a long drawn out debate, and I half agree with what your saying. So it been fun, but I wont post again in this topic any way  I know when to quit before we get into name calling territory and saying he started, I started etc etc, I see too many threads like that on here already.

[Franko]

PS: Franko I dont want to get into a war with you over this, I do understand what you are saying, maybe you should ask Cloanto on if there could be somekind of soultion for users who just want to buy the Roms the workbench disks, but I think £30 is not much to ask for every AmigaOS from 1.0 to 3.0 and all the other extras your getting, you must of thought this your self at one point to buy Amiga Forever.

Never said I wanted a war either, just logged in this morning only to find all these crazy posts about Cloanto (who I don't have anything against)...

The only reason I bought Amiga Forever a couple of years ago was because family and friends had been going on at me for years to ditch my Amigas and buy a "real computer" (ie:a PC) as they call them.

So I bought Amiga Forever to test out on my sisters PC first and didn't like it and it's been lying in a cupboard ever since...

But I still don't agree with having to buy "Amiga Forever" just to get hold of some rom images, it's not the price or the fact that you gets DVDs with it, it's the simple case that the rom images if they are to be sold should be available individually and not bundled with stuff I don't want or require so Cloanto can try and justify the price...

[Franko]

just encase you missed it

Why, when the web site free, unlike the Roms

Sorry can't make that out, think my eyesight must be failing...

[nicholas]

Didn't your Mother tell you it would make you go blind?

[koaftder]

But I still don't agree with having to buy "Amiga Forever" just to get hold of some rom images, it's not the price or the fact that you gets DVDs with it, it's the simple case that the rom images if they are to be sold should be available individually and not bundled with stuff I don't want or require so Cloanto can try and justify the price...

Too bad. You don't own it and therefore it's not your call to make. If it wasn't for property rights nobody would have ever developed the Amiga hardware or written the operating system in the first place.

[jj]

I never said you not liking me made you a hypocrite, I call you a hypocrite based on these posts and the fact that you seem to respond to me personally in a lot of yours posts !!!
 
and now you suddenly claim ...
 
 
 
I refer you to these posts...
 
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=610104&postcount=15
 
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=610713&postcount=79
 
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=576352&postcount=6
 
Now if that's not being a hypocrite then gawd knows what is...

 
Eh, what has my views on CUSA got to do with anything.  I have an opinion I have voiced, I have not made it some crusade, but I must be some sort of fucktard but I don't get how that make me hypocrite.  Can you please explain it to a thicky.

[Franko]

Eh, what has my views on CUSA got to do with anything.  I have an opinion I have voiced, I have not made it some crusade, but I must be some sort of fucktard but I don't get how that make me hypocrite.  Can you please explain it to a thicky.

You said it, not me...

[jj]

Well that still does not expalin anything

[Franko]

Well that still does not expalin anything

Well as you seem so desperate for an explanation of why I used the term "hypocrite" let me explain in simple terms as you obviously can't understand your own posts...

In one post you said about CUSA...

The whole thing stinks and their business practices( if you want to call them that) are laughable.

I have never said this before, and its nothing to do with the commodore name as it hold no attachement to me, I hope this business fails so bad.

are you with me so far...

then in a later post about the X1000 you said...

No, why would anyone want to fail at something especially if its their passion and they stand to loose money.

You would have to be some sort of prick to wish that

Still following, not too confusing is it...

Now if you can't see the hypocrisy in your own statements, then perhaps your other comment may be accurate...

but I must be some sort of fucktard

Ok JJ, I get the fact you don't like me but your opinion on me counts for nothing, so why do you even bother to respond to my posts, gotta be honest I find most of your post rather amusing especially when they're of the type shown above...

[jj]

Ok fair play caught me out there.  Not so much hypocritical more  of a changable opinion.  Sometimes get caught up in the moment.
 
I don't think I dislike you as a person, how could I, I don't know you.  I just feel that you seem to rather find the fault in thins rather than the joy.
 
You are correct my opinion of you does not count for anything.

[jorkany]

And what does you buying an "OS4 machine" have to do with supporting the Amiga Community

Franko, you'll find that many OS4 supporters treat Hyperion and Co. as a charity. There are even some out there who don't have the hardware to run OS4 but they still buy the software. They also actually believe that OS4 *is the Amiga*, and therefore by supporting the OS4 charity they are somehow supporting the Amiga.

I know, it's pretty screwy, but that's just how it is.