Anyone have one of these MCC-216's?

[save2600]

Ran across this searching for C= stuff the other day:

http://cgi.ebay.com/C64-AMIGA-MCC-216-s-video-bulk-version-/280604774399?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4155590fff#ht_1188wt_1058

Wonder how it compares to the MiniMig. Looks like it does C64, Atari 2600 and outputs S-video as well...

[Franko]

Now that looks interesting, think I'll email the seller and ask for a few more details first. As at that price I wouldn't mind buying one...

[Ral-Clan]

There was a review (preview) of this in Commodore Free issue 46 (available as a PDF for free download - http://www.commodorefree.com/magazine/vol4/issue46.pdf).  It was a fairly in depth review but strangely didn't touch at all on the Amiga aspect of the device...

[Franko]

There was a review (preview) of this in Commodore Free issue 46 (available as a PDF for free download - http://www.commodorefree.com/magazine/vol4/issue46.pdf).  It was a fairly in depth review but strangely didn't touch at all on the Amiga aspect of the device...

Wow... thanks for that...

I'd never heard of the CommodoreFree magazine, just added it to my favorites...

Cheers

Franko

[tone007]

YO that's crap.

[save2600]

Now that looks interesting, think I'll email the seller and ask for a few more details first. As at that price I wouldn't mind buying one...

Yeah, like how it handles OCS/ECS/AGA the various Kickstarts and compatibility in general. The ad is worded quite strangely. As if it was written by someone from berry, berry far east!

[Franko]

Yeah, like how it handles OCS/ECS/AGA the various Kickstarts and compatibility in general. The ad is worded quite strangely. As if it was written by someone from berry, berry far east!

I've sent a message to the seller via ebay, just need to wait and see if he responds (and in what langauge...:lol: )

[save2600]

YO that's crap.

Yeah, I know. I hate .pdf's too with_a_passion. AH! I see there's different versions of the mag... .txt will do quite nicely thank you very much  

I'm sure you were talking about the MCC unit though...  :lol:

[orb85750]

Zero interest here.  I'll take the real thing versus emulation anyday.

[Franko]

Zero interest here.  I'll take the real thing versus emulation anyday.

I prefer the real thing too, my real C64 and MMCSD card reader does an excellent job...

But I love to tinker and would like to put one of these in a keyboard and change it like I did with one of those C64 DTV joystick emulator thingies that were all the rage a couple of years ago (I even added an S Video output to it and a serial connector to link up with the miggie)...

[gaula92]

MCC-16 is NOT a software emulator, but a hardware simuator in FPGA, just like the Minimig.
Comparing it with emulation is just plain silly: it behaves EXACTLY as hardware at electronical level. So your post is rushed, orb85750, and it makes no sense at all.

On the other hand, I have and MCC-16 here (as I have a Minimig and an Altera DE1), and it only supports C64 for now. It makes a good job: most games work flawlessly, but some of them need slight adjustments: Tim Follin's excelent work for Ghouls'N Ghosts has a small sound problem with one of the channels, for example, and Creaures 1 & 2 are unplayable due to a bug in the VICII implementation.

Those should be fixed soon, however.

The Amiga core is unreleased. I hope they release it soon! It's based on the Minimig core with an improved 68K core (not TG68K anymore, I believe).

EDIT: My MCC-16 is the VGA version, so no Atari2600 core for now. Not that I matter, the Atari2600 is a piece of crap for my taste.

[coldfish]

Zero interest here.  I'll take the real thing versus emulation anyday.

Opposite opinion here.  Very interested in these FPGA based concepts, and how they're evolving.

[orb85750]

MCC-16 is NOT a software emulator, but a hardware simuator in FPGA, just like the Minimig.
Comparing it with emulation is just plain silly: it behaves EXACTLY as hardware at electronical level. So your post is rushed, orb85750, and it makes no sense at all.

On the other hand, I have and MCC-16 here (as I have a Minimig and an Altera DE1), and it only supports C64 for now. It makes a good job: most games work flawlessly, but some of them need slight adjustments: Tim Follin's excelent work for Ghouls'N Ghosts has a small sound problem with one of the channels, for example, and Creaures 1 & 2 are unplayable due to a bug in the VICII implementation.

Those should be fixed soon, however.

The Amiga core is unreleased. I hope they release it soon! It's based on the Minimig core with an improved 68K core (not TG68K anymore, I believe).

EDIT: My MCC-16 is the VGA version, so no Atari2600 core for now. Not that I matter, the Atari2600 is a piece of crap for my taste.

FPGA will be very nice for surpassing classic Amiga -- which does not appear to be the case here.  Ask yourself: Would you trade your bona fide A1200 for the MCC?

EDIT: And let me add that I did find the minimig to be interesting from a developmental standpoint, but I never had any interest in owning one.  For obvious reasons, Natami will be a different story in terms of demand by classic Amiga enthusiasts.

[save2600]

The Amiga core is unreleased. I hope they release it soon! It's based on the Minimig core with an improved 68K core (not TG68K anymore, I believe).

So, you're saying the 216 does not currently do Amiga either? Even though it's supposedly advertised as such?

You MCC-16 is a different unit? A search just reveals something about a midwest caged championship. lol

[mpiva]

So, you're saying the 216 does not currently do Amiga either? Even though it's supposedly advertised as such?

It's not advertised as such.  The eBay write-up clearly says:

The MCC ships today with the Commodore C-64 emulation. The Commodore Amiga emulation and the ATARI 2600 will follow soon with a simple Software upgrade.