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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: AmigaClassicRule on October 27, 2011, 07:12:57 AM
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I have two very curious questions to ask. Is it seriously impossible, literally, impossible for an Amiga 500 to have high speed internet connection even if the person upgrade the CPU from 7 Mhz to 50 Mhz? Can the person still have high speed internet connection like that of the Amiga 1200 and 4000 series?
Also, if a person have 50 Mhz CPU is it also impossible to be able to watch movies on the Amiga 500? Is it really far fetched to watch movies on Amiga 500? Because a simple mp3 player I have, it is tiny screen and it is not even a computer, or anything, it is a very inferior hardware spec for mp3, allows you to view images and play movies with sound by converting the movie from avi to mv or some format? So why can't Amiga 500 with 50 Mhz be able to play movies when Commodore 64 can play movies on 20 Mhz CPU running WINGS computer?
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You can put as fast an accelerator as you can find in an A500, if you like, and you can get Ethernet addons as well. What you're going to run up against is the fact that the system bus is only 3.58MHz. You're not going to get the CPU to access memory any faster than that unless it's RAM directly on the accelerator; that's why accelerator RAM and later CPUs with more cache make such a big difference. And you're not going to access the Ethernet adapter any faster, either, or the video.
That's not to say you can't do those things on the Amiga; video for certain is doable, if limited, and I believe there are at least 10/100 Ethernet cards (though you might need a Zorro II expansion box.) Certainly with a nicer accelerator and onboard RAM you can get MP3 playback. But ultimately you have to remember that the A500 is good at what it was designed for, flexible enough to do a number of things it wasn't designed for pretty well, but still none too far removed from the original 1985 Amiga 1000.
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You can put as fast an accelerator as you can find in an A500, if you like, and you can get Ethernet addons as well. What you're going to run up against is the fact that the system bus is only 3.58MHz. You're not going to get the CPU to access memory any faster than that unless it's RAM directly on the accelerator; that's why accelerator RAM and later CPUs with more cache make such a big difference. And you're not going to access the Ethernet adapter any faster, either, or the video.
That's not to say you can't do those things on the Amiga; video for certain is doable, if limited, and I believe there are at least 10/100 Ethernet cards (though you might need a Zorro II expansion box.) Certainly with a nicer accelerator and onboard RAM you can get MP3 playback. But ultimately you have to remember that the A500 is good at what it was designed for, flexible enough to do a number of things it wasn't designed for pretty well, but still none too far removed from the original 1985 Amiga 1000.
Hmmmmmmmm.......maybe it is not worth it after all. I am thinking you need a gvp turbo a500-hd+ expansion with build in Ethernet support, ability to see more than 8 MB of RAM, like say 64 of RAM, have build in to the expansion CPU 50 Mhz CPU, as well as hard drive, hmmmmm....maybe it comes back...we need a better Amiga classic system upgrade all together, something new classic Amiga that meets the demand of the new generation, watching movies, play mp3, browse the internet. Ok, I suppose...I will use my Amiga 500 for what it is good for...games. :)
It is just every time I see the interface of the kicstart 1.3...I ache with it's orange color cursor and blue screen, to browse the internet on workbench 1.3 and watch movies on the workbench screen of it....as well as chat online and play mp3 :D But I will leave that fetish to the dreams.
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Its much easier (and cheaper) to do these things on an Amiga 1200. If you really wanted this experience on an A500 (without spending a fortune) I'd suggest some extra ram and a HD, then use the serial port to run PPP to another PC (Linux/Win?) - this would give you TCP/IP networking without the expense. Browsing the web still won't be fun, or pretty though.
I use iBrowse on my A1200 (50Mhz 68030, 2 Meg Chip, 16Mb Fast, IDE HD, some weird multiscan resolution) and it's perfectly usable. Not the quickest and not all sites work due to lack of Java / CSS - but, it's an enjoyable experience.
However, if you like classic style hardware but want more power, check out NatAmi (http://www.natami.net/).
Finally, welcome to Amiga.org - great to have you onboard!
Steve
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Hmmmmmmmm.......maybe it is not worth it after all. I am thinking you need a gvp turbo a500-hd+ expansion with build in Ethernet support, ability to see more than 8 MB of RAM, like say 64 of RAM, have build in to the expansion CPU 50 Mhz CPU, as well as hard drive, hmmmmm....maybe it comes back...we need a better Amiga classic system upgrade all together, something new classic Amiga that meets the demand of the new generation, watching movies, play mp3, browse the internet. Ok, I suppose...I will use my Amiga 500 for what it is good for...games. :)
It is just every time I see the interface of the kicstart 1.3...I ache with it's orange color cursor and blue screen, to browse the internet on workbench 1.3 and watch movies on the workbench screen of it....as well as chat online and play mp3 :D But I will leave that fetish to the dreams.
I'm sure you could watch HAM6 CDXL video on a stock A500, but you'd still need a CD-ROM, or a hard drive to store the CDXL files.
The CDTV ran CDXL, and that is basically an A500 with a single speed CDROM.
CDXL specs: 160x100, 12fps, mono audio, 4096 colours. (single speed drive)
256x128 12fps, mono audio, 4096 colours (double speed drive).
Really, the big box Amiga's are easier to expand, as is the A1200. But it's certainly possible on the A500.
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I have two very curious questions to ask. Is it seriously impossible, literally, impossible for an Amiga 500 to have high speed internet connection even if the person upgrade the CPU from 7 Mhz to 50 Mhz? Can the person still have high speed internet connection like that of the Amiga 1200 and 4000 series?
Also, if a person have 50 Mhz CPU is it also impossible to be able to watch movies on the Amiga 500? Is it really far fetched to watch movies on Amiga 500? Because a simple mp3 player I have, it is tiny screen and it is not even a computer, or anything, it is a very inferior hardware spec for mp3, allows you to view images and play movies with sound by converting the movie from avi to mv or some format? So why can't Amiga 500 with 50 Mhz be able to play movies when Commodore 64 can play movies on 20 Mhz CPU running WINGS computer?
Not a big problem for movies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgdJAj3jty0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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My friend and I calculated a good size to use for CDXL movies a few years ago. It works best with movies that are around 2.35:1 aspect ratio, like Star Wars, Lord of the Rings and other very widescreen films. The CDXL video itself is 320x64, and the CDXL player uses the Copper to double the height of the video to 320x128, so it fits the full width of the screen (without overscan anyway). This format runs on a 2x CD drive like the CD32, we made a couple of video clips in both HAM8 and 256 colours (256 colour CDXL can have a different palette per frame with 24bit depth so can sometimes give nicer and clearer results than the 4,096 colour locked palette of HAM6. Of course on an A500 you could not view a 256 colour CDXL, so the 4,096 colour format is fine. You can fit around 40-45 minutes of CDXL video in this size on a CD, so if you converted a few 1.5hour movies you could fit them on 2 CDs, just like Video CDs which usually came on 2 discs.
Of course if you were reading the files from a hard drive you could make them higher resolution because the Amiga can read the images faster, but then the files end up being much larger too. You could also get some cartoons and convert them to CDXL in 16 or 32 colours, which would keep the frame file size smaller and let you use a larger size.
Unfortunately there's no easy to use software to convert video files to CDXL, and it's a long process involving several steps and programs to extract the frames, sort and delete unneeded frames, calculate framerates and audio playback rate, batch processing the frames, resizing and remapping them, recombining them into an animation then merging the audio... it takes a while, and because of the effort involved it seems no one has really converted and uploaded CDXL movies for people to download and watch.
But using the CDXL format, the A500 is totally capable of playing movies if you have enough storage space to keep the videos.
Also, you can convert MP3s to 8SVX/IFF or WAV format and use a player on the Amiga to play them back. Some players have playlists and tapedeck style controls like WinAmp and other popular players, so it can sort of look and feel like you're listening to a collection of MP3s on your Amiga. The sound quality won't be as good as a modern PC, since the Amiga only has 8bit audio but if the music is resampled right when it's converted it can still sound pretty good on the Amiga.
I think you should look up the upcoming ACA520 accelerator. It will probably have a 28Mhz 68EC020 CPU, 8MB FastRAM, IDE and a CF slot, Clockport and maybe Ethernet too, so it would make an A500 internet capable, or at least expand it enough to run a decent Workbench system and give you the storage options to keep a collection of uncompressed videos and music.
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My friend and I calculated a good size to use for CDXL movies a few years ago. It works best with movies that are around 2.35:1 aspect ratio, like Star Wars, Lord of the Rings and other very widescreen films. The CDXL video itself is 320x64, and the CDXL player uses the Copper to double the height of the video to 320x128, so it fits the full width of the screen (without overscan anyway). This format runs on a 2x CD drive like the CD32, we made a couple of video clips in both HAM8 and 256 colours (256 colour CDXL can have a different palette per frame with 24bit depth so can sometimes give nicer and clearer results than the 4,096 colour locked palette of HAM6. Of course on an A500 you could not view a 256 colour CDXL, so the 4,096 colour format is fine. You can fit around 40-45 minutes of CDXL video in this size on a CD, so if you converted a few 1.5hour movies you could fit them on 2 CDs, just like Video CDs which usually came on 2 discs.
Of course if you were reading the files from a hard drive you could make them higher resolution because the Amiga can read the images faster, but then the files end up being much larger too. You could also get some cartoons and convert them to CDXL in 16 or 32 colours, which would keep the frame file size smaller and let you use a larger size.
Unfortunately there's no easy to use software to convert video files to CDXL, and it's a long process involving several steps and programs to extract the frames, sort and delete unneeded frames, calculate framerates and audio playback rate, batch processing the frames, resizing and remapping them, recombining them into an animation then merging the audio... it takes a while, and because of the effort involved it seems no one has really converted and uploaded CDXL movies for people to download and watch.
But using the CDXL format, the A500 is totally capable of playing movies if you have enough storage space to keep the videos.
Also, you can convert MP3s to 8SVX/IFF or WAV format and use a player on the Amiga to play them back. Some players have playlists and tapedeck style controls like WinAmp and other popular players, so it can sort of look and feel like you're listening to a collection of MP3s on your Amiga. The sound quality won't be as good as a modern PC, since the Amiga only has 8bit audio but if the music is resampled right when it's converted it can still sound pretty good on the Amiga.
I think you should look up the upcoming ACA520 accelerator. It will probably have a 28Mhz 68EC020 CPU, 8MB FastRAM, IDE and a CF slot, Clockport and maybe Ethernet too, so it would make an A500 internet capable, or at least expand it enough to run a decent Workbench system and give you the storage options to keep a collection of uncompressed videos and music.
Is it possible then I can have links, software and articles tutorial to teach me how to convert movies to CDXL for the Amiga?? I want to port one tv show called Duckman and I am willing to go through all the agitations and trails to do it and time to do it. Please if someone can give me a good article, links, software and a simple tutorial to do this...I want to do WHAT EVER IT TAKES to convert a single movie, or at least a movie for Amiga 500 and if it works..I am willing to convert any move by request from users and take the time to convert it to the classic Amiga. I am serious. I want to watch a movie on my Amiga 500!! And if I can watch movies on my Amiga 500, play MP3 on my Amiga 500 and EVEN browse the internet on my Amiga 500 THAN I AM SET!!! I do not need any other Amiga hardware...I have gotten what I wanted for so long, to turn my Amiga 500 into modern use, browse internet, watch movies, play mp3, read articles on it, do word processing and play games and have the feel I am using a Commodore in steroid, i.e, Amiga.
But concerning that software do not worry about it, I am going to save money and develop a software for Window and hire people to work with me (as long as I know the complete steps to do this) so that the software purpose is to convert any movie to CDXL with a single mouse click. I want to make the software so useful and user friendly, all you have to do is enter the parameters of what you need, click convert and whatever it takes the computer does all the work and convert it into a complete full functioning CDXL for the Amiga then distribute this software for the public (the software will be for free, but donation is appreciate it)...in hopes that people will take this and CONVERT A LOT OF MOVIES to run on Amiga 500/+.
As for CD, I have A500-HD+ with scsi port on the back, I can order an external SCSI dvd player even and have movies on it, not a big deal, I just want to watch movies on my Amiga 500 on my Commodore 1084s monitor :D.
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Yes please, links to CDXL encoder for use with CDTV/500/1000/2000 Cammy.
(I haven't finished coding my OCS movie player, nobody can help me with coding interleaved sound reading, will be better than anything before)
You can surf the net with 8mb 16 colour PC 386 with Netscape so just need to keep to sites suitable for that 1994 PC setup.....no streaming flash video/anim etc :)
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Plllllleasse Cammy!!! I realllly want to watch a movie on my Amiga 500...please please please...Cammy help us, please!!! I am willing to pay whatever money from my pocket to make the software do it all for us, BUT I NEED YOU Cammy to help us get the necessary steps to be done manually and correctly that works so we can take these steps and convert them into automatic program that does them for us...please Cammy help us!
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Plllllleasse Cammy!!! I realllly want to watch a movie on my Amiga 500...please please please...Cammy help us, please!!! I am willing to pay whatever money from my pocket to make the software do it all for us, BUT I NEED YOU Cammy to help us get the necessary steps to be done manually and correctly that works so we can take these steps and convert them into automatic program that does them for us...please Cammy help us!
To be clear, my movie player is not CDXL compatible, it s uncompressed HAM/EHB frames + sound DMA'd into chipmem from 4200rpm IDE 2.5" HDD. :)
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Well it is good that there is another movie player :D I want to get CDXL first working and get my first Duckman show converted and watchable on Amiga 500...when I managed it and got an automotive software that does the conversion in Windows for us...then I want to know about your movie player :) I want to go ahead and download any movie on the internet, convert it and run it on the Amiga 500.....OOOOH THE IMAGE IS SO SWEET!! I have just turned my Amiga 500 into a DVD player...WOOHOO....oh God!!! CAAMMYY!!
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To be clear, my movie player is not CDXL compatible, it s uncompressed HAM/EHB frames + sound DMA'd into chipmem from 4200rpm IDE 2.5" HDD. :)
How big are those files going to be without compression? one HDD per film? ;P
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Also, if a person have 50 Mhz CPU is it also impossible to be able to watch movies on the Amiga 500?
If your CPU is a 50MHZ (060 not 030) then you will just have enough power to play watchable MPEG1 movies with RiVA in HAM6 mode.
http://aminet.net/package/gfx/show/RiVA
the demo version only plays greyscale. The registered version will do HAM6 and HAM8(AGA) color as well as RTG.
I just registered it for $15 and now I can watch Big Bang Theory on my Amiga 1200 :)
It is fairly trivial to convert stuff to MPEG1 now that the converters support CUDA.
There is also HAMP which has amazing results on machines with even a basic 68000, however the video files are huge and the conversion process is involved, so I have never seen more than a "clip", let alone a movie or movies :)
this is HAMP running on a minimig.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNWLtSWXtD8
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I'm sort of able to do this. I have an a500 with an 030 and scsi/compactflash. Using dctv I can "watch" videos... with a zorro-2 adapter, you could use a regular ethernet card. I think all of the cards are 10mbs, so I'm not sure what you consider high-speed. But zorro-2 does have enough bandwidth to utilize 10mbs ethernet...
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How big are those files going to be without compression? one HDD per film? ;P
It's only for (motly silent) cut scenes in my HD games based on films/TV shows etc one day, for now. (320x150x6)/8= byte size of frame. So 48000b for 4096 colour frame but you get 250% more resolution & 24/25fps image with no 'noise' over smaller CDXL files. You can tune the compression into playback after you benchmarked the chipset bus DMA throughput for OCS. I want to try lo-res interlace too actually :)
The whole point was to show Amiga 1000 was massively held back by storage technology of 1985 NOT OCS ie 1-2 decades ahead of it's time in potential. And that 7mhz A1000 movie will still look better than VGA ISA 486 25mhz 256 colour dithered animations thanks to HAM mode.
If nobody ever used it I wouldn't mind, it's for my own personal projects.
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I'm sort of able to do this. I have an a500 with an 030 and scsi/compactflash. Using dctv I can "watch" videos... with a zorro-2 adapter, you could use a regular ethernet card. I think all of the cards are 10mbs, so I'm not sure what you consider high-speed. But zorro-2 does have enough bandwidth to utilize 10mbs ethernet...
Most websites are CPU intensive too, 50mhz 030 is not a lot of MIPS (40mhz 386?) and ECS/OCS not s st s even 386 VGA. Browser has a tough time surfing todays Flash infested sites.
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If your CPU is a 50MHZ (060 not 030) then you will just have enough power to play watchable MPEG1 movies with RiVA in HAM6 mode.
http://aminet.net/package/gfx/show/RiVA
the demo version only plays greyscale. The registered version will do HAM6 and HAM8(AGA) color as well as RTG.
I just registered it for $15 and now I can watch Big Bang Theory on my Amiga 1200 :)
It is fairly trivial to convert stuff to MPEG1 now that the converters support CUDA.
There is also HAMP which has amazing results on machines with even a basic 68000, however the video files are huge and the conversion process is involved, so I have never seen more than a "clip", let alone a movie or movies :)
this is HAMP running on a minimig.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNWLtSWXtD8
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLDDDDDDDDDDDDD THE BREAKS EVRYONE!!!!!
I need you to be completely honest with me ones and for good...no fooling arround!!! Are you saying, all I need is a 68060 processor for the Amiga 500, an external scsi dvd player and I convert movies to mpeg which is MUCH EASIER than ever before....upgrade the kickstart from kickstart 1.3 to 3.1 which is piece of cake, download this program and register it for 15 bucks which I will do easily and I can WATCH any movie I EVER WANTED like the one you showed me on YOUTUBE AND LOOKS as good as the one on YOUTUBE like you showed me on MY OCS Amiga 500 with 8 MB FAST RAM????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What about HAMP?? IF 68060 does not exist for Amiga 500 or impossibly rare can a 68030 WORK WELL FOR HAMP giving the SAME result in YOUTUBE and watch MPEG movies on HAMP??? I think I am this close now to watching movies on my Amiga 500, Commodore 1084s........I think I am going to have anxiety attack with anxiousness...water, must drink water!
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Could you quit posting in desperate pleas for assistance over the course of an afternoon? It's a little annoying. The possibility of doing the things you want is not going to vanish if you wait too long.
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I am going to ignore your post Commodorejohn, I have a legible reason to be anxious and if I go a little excited it is for legible reason also. I have always wanted to watch movies on my Amiga 500 and I thought it was impossible, now someone is showing me a window and an open window, I just need to confirm with him completely how go through that window...so I get a little excited. What is your reason for that response?
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I use iBrowse on my A1200 (50Mhz 68030, 2 Meg Chip, 16Mb Fast, IDE HD, some weird multiscan resolution) and it's perfectly usable. Not the quickest and not all sites work due to lack of Java / CSS - but, it's an enjoyable experience.
Have you tried http://aoproxy.extropia.co.uk/ ?
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Routes for video playback on an A500, for all I know :)
1. filmdt+AGMSFilm2
2. avi4hv
3. cdxl toolkit +cdgsxl+xltoolkit
BTW you can also play mp3 audio files on a 68000 (with limited quality)
I have uploaded all of that software here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?wit9au34yfq1t
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Routes for video playback on an A500, for all I know :)
1. filmdt+AGMSFilm2
2. avi4hv
3. cdxl toolkit +cdgsxl+xltoolkit
BTW you can also play mp3 audio files on a 68000 (with limited quality)
I have uploaded all of that software here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?wit9au34yfq1t
Can you tell me more about 1 and 2 please? I noticed when I attempted to play the movie using agmsfilm2 it was scaninning for iff for both audio and visual, I have a program that extract the film into row jpg and wav and I have a program that converts jpg to amiga iff easy with a simple mouse click, now is there a movie maker for window that I can add iff for both audio and image and save and compile it as normal avi to play in agmsfilm2?
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If only someone could tell us how the hell we encode n playback ANIM+SLA type 2 (type 1 pre-loads sound into RAM, type 2 streams ANIM video AND audio together.
Here is our Amiga format streaming movie.......that nobody supported!
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=53027
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If only someone could tell us how the hell we encode n playback ANIM+SLA type 2 (type 1 pre-loads sound into RAM, type 2 streams ANIM video AND audio together.
Here is our Amiga format streaming movie.......that nobody supported!
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=53027
I have the feeling that no one really wants to get movies on the Amiga classic or help resolve the issue.
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There are better things to do with an Amiga.
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Hello, I'm sorry I couldn't reply earlier, I was a bridesmaid at my friend's wedding which went all day and night.
There used to be a guide online on converting movies to CDXL, but the site it was on is gone now. It was made by an Amiga.org member amigaanime (http://www.amiga.org/forums/member.php?u=3241). He also converted five or six episodes of an anime series to CDXL, which you can still find online on various download sites. They are in compressed iso files though, so you need to extract then either mount or burn the ISO to CD to get the CDXL file out. The CDs will play on a CD32 as well. Here's a thread about it - http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=17072
I have intended on converting several films and TV shows to CDXL so I could play them on my own A600 and A500 when the ACA520 comes out, so I won't give up trying remember how it was done. I love the idea of clicking on an icon in Workbench and playing a video, either full screen or in a window(since Multiview plays CDXLs too), so I'll be experimenting with both HAM6 and 16 colour CDXLs.
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The docs to RiVA say on an 030/50MHZ Blizzard it can playback 160x120 mpeg files in greyscale at 18.5 FPS, HAM6 at 11.5FPS and 10.5 FPS in HAM8. I'm assuming that is without sound, so I'm not sure how much that slows it down...
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BTW you can also play mp3 audio files on a 68000 (with limited quality)
Ahem, no you can't, not even with "limited" quality ;)
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What is your reason for that response?
Well... He does have a point. I understand you're anxious, but, well, don't get too excited. It makes your posts extremely hard to read.
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Ahem, no you can't, not even with "limited" quality ;)
I remember playing the first few seconds of an mp3 (it was a song from The Police) by prebuffering it on an A500+ with 2mb ram and no hdd :)
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Wasn't available a parallel or serial port thingy that allow you to listen to mp3s in your 500 doing the decoding itself and leaving the a500 cpu free?.
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Ahem, no you can't, not even with "limited" quality ;)
Provided you've got enough time, you can. ;)
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Videos/movies are definately possible on an unaccelerated 68000 Amiga 500!
Go to www.youtube.com (http://www.youtube.com) and search for StrikerAUT or Amiga Ham6 or take a look here http://www.lotek64.com/hp/download.php
Issue 41, page 7 (all in German language).
Regards,
Reini
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I have two very curious questions to ask. Is it seriously impossible, literally, impossible for an Amiga 500 to have high speed internet connection even if the person upgrade the CPU from 7 Mhz to 50 Mhz? Can the person still have high speed internet connection like that of the Amiga 1200 and 4000 series?
Just a word of advice: You're walking down a dangerous and expensive path, my friend. Having an A500 do all that is going to cost you a *lot* of time and money. It's not worth it just for brags.
If I'm wrong, please accept my apologies. But, if I'm right then I know the truth stings because I did the same mistake a few years back. Cost me a lot of money, time and frustration. After the buzz wore off, it turned into a big dust collector and I ended up selling the parts with a loss.
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I have two very curious questions to ask. Is it seriously impossible, literally, impossible for an Amiga 500 to have high speed internet connection even if the person upgrade the CPU from 7 Mhz to 50 Mhz? Can the person still have high speed internet connection like that of the Amiga 1200 and 4000 series?
Also, if a person have 50 Mhz CPU is it also impossible to be able to watch movies on the Amiga 500? Is it really far fetched to watch movies on Amiga 500? Because a simple mp3 player I have, it is tiny screen and it is not even a computer, or anything, it is a very inferior hardware spec for mp3, allows you to view images and play movies with sound by converting the movie from avi to mv or some format? So why can't Amiga 500 with 50 Mhz be able to play movies when Commodore 64 can play movies on 20 Mhz CPU running WINGS computer?
I have done this on a A1000 although not practicle. i had a viper 520cd accelerator in the A1000 with 3x roms,8MB ram,and 540Mb hd. I hacked a x-surf ethernet card to the side and it happily browsed the net is 16 glorious colors(setting ibrowse 2.4 to use fast ram helped here).
it worked flawless but didnt look what i would call.. good.. lol
If you dont need ethernet, a gvp A530 with 030/50 and 3.1 roms along with BIGANIM from aminet may be the most practicle thing to do .. Biganim can stream anims from the hard drive. Put a fast scsi HD in the gvp and kick it into synchronous mode and it should stream at least 5MB/s or so and wont suck all the cpu time up.. you will be dealing with monster vid files being nearly uncompressed however. You will have to convert video to some anim format.
A dctv is the only way to get decent output close to 24bit im my opinion but i havent done any of this is quite a few years. A fast scsi interface with low cpu overhead is the key in my opinion. I wouldnt expect much off ecs/ocs tho lol.
mech
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Ahem, no you can't, not even with "limited" quality ;)
Yeah, you need something much faster. There was an mp3 decoder that attached to the disk drive port, so you could play mp3's on a 68000 machine.
You could make a VCD decoder using an fpga. Then either have it genlock the output or do some funky true colour to ham6 conversion.
Maybe Jens will add it to his flicker fixer :-)
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I have two very curious questions to ask. Is it seriously impossible, literally, impossible for an Amiga 500 to have high speed internet connection even if the person upgrade the CPU from 7 Mhz to 50 Mhz? Can the person still have high speed internet connection like that of the Amiga 1200 and 4000 series?
Also, if a person have 50 Mhz CPU is it also impossible to be able to watch movies on the Amiga 500? Is it really far fetched to watch movies on Amiga 500? Because a simple mp3 player I have, it is tiny screen and it is not even a computer, or anything, it is a very inferior hardware spec for mp3, allows you to view images and play movies with sound by converting the movie from avi to mv or some format? So why can't Amiga 500 with 50 Mhz be able to play movies when Commodore 64 can play movies on 20 Mhz CPU running WINGS computer?
I have done this on a A1000 although not practicle. i had a viper 520cd accelerator in the A1000 with 3x roms,8MB ram,and 540Mb hd. I hacked a x-surf ethernet card to the side and it happily browsed the net is 16 glorious colors(setting ibrowse 2.4 to use fast ram helped here).
it worked flawless but didnt look what i would call.. good.. lol
If you dont need ethernet, a gvp A530 with 030/50 and 3.1 roms along with BIGANIM from aminet may be the most practicle thing to do .. Biganim can stream anims from the hard drive. Put a fast scsi HD in the gvp and kick it into synchronous mode and it should stream at least 5MB/s or so and wont suck all the cpu time up.. you will be dealing with monster vid files being nearly uncompressed however. You will have to convert video to some anim format.
A dctv is the only way to get decent output close to 24bit im my opinion but i havent done any of this is quite a few years. A fast scsi interface with low cpu overhead is the key in my opinion. I wouldnt expect much off ecs/ocs tho lol.
mech
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There is this for MP3:
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1078
I have one I use (admittedly on my 1200) and it works great.
No reason it won't work on the A500, as the processing is offloaded.
(I think the software needs 2.x or above)..
So a movie player that streamed video and offloaded the audio to the device would be feasible.
You still have some CPU overhead pumping the MP3 thru the serial port, but it should be less that if it processed it thru Paula...
desiv
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Hi,
I will show this coming sunday for the first time in the world in public complete full movies on a particulary stock 68000 Amiga 500!!
I have converted Indiana Jones (3) and the last crusade, Star Wars Episode IV, Avatar and Cars.
I will play all these movies on a normal Amiga 500 with an AlfaPower external IDE Harddisk (no Turbocard!!!). If you think it isn't possible come to Vienna. I will show you. :)
http://www.telecomm.at/commodore-meeting/index.htm
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Hi,
I will show this coming sunday for the first time in the world in public complete full movies on a particulary stock 68000 Amiga 500!!
I have converted Indiana Jones (3) and the last crusade, Star Wars Episode IV, Avatar and Cars.
I will play all these movies on a normal Amiga 500 with an AlfaPower external IDE Harddisk (no Turbocard!!!). If you think it isn't possible come to Vienna. I will show you. :)
http://www.telecomm.at/commodore-meeting/index.htm
That is sweet! Can you send me link of these videos so I can watch them on my Amiga 1200? By the way guys, the OP is very old...I no longer cared to watching movies on an A500 since I already achieved my dreams by watching DVD quality movies on my A1200. Besides, I have already too much games I need to finish in three different systems:
. xBox 360
. PC
. Amiga 1200
I barely have enough time now to convert movies into A1200 to watch them. Ones I am satisfied with my gaming experience I will move on to watching movies on an A1200.
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Sorry but this is due to my very slow and limited 3g usb stick Internet connection not possible. Avatar (from Blu-Ray Special Edition) for example takes 3x 1.8GB for Amiga in uncompressed Ham6 Video Format. After the meeting I can make a short demo movie and upload it if you can provide a ftp.
Kind regards,
Reini