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The Commdore Amiga - Why was it so Special?!
« on: January 25, 2024, 06:47:31 PM »
The Commodore Amiga! I adored this machine as a kid! But, why was it so special? I feel the computer left a lasting legacy on the gaming industry. Feel free to listen to this fun pod that reflects on the Amiga's history, games & its legacy!

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5eophJJqJ28SvRsIzDo4q5?si=d8b658b9540b46f5
 

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Re: The Commdore Amiga - Why was it so Special?!
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2024, 01:48:36 AM »
a big thing for me was commodore introduced true multitasking in 1985 on the amiga, while microsoft and apple were stumped on that till 1990.
it was the first personal computer that i know of that could produce a broadcast quality NTSC video.
 

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Re: The Commdore Amiga - Why was it so Special?!
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2024, 01:54:21 PM »
 It was ahead of its time. Don’t forget PC’s of the time period were no where near to doing what Commodore were releasing hardware wise. The Amiga had a custom chipset which produced Sound and Graphics. It can multi-task. Okay it wasn’t PC compatible so therefore you couldn’t run things like WordPerfect or Lotus 1-2-3 etc… But things like games and the Demo Scene started because of this system.
 

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Re: The Commdore Amiga - Why was it so Special?!
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2024, 12:15:20 PM »
Of course you could run WordPerfect on it if you wanted.
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Re: The Commdore Amiga - Why was it so Special?!
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2024, 01:36:52 PM »
Of course you could run WordPerfect on it if you wanted.

I’m guessing with emulation?
 

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Re: The Commdore Amiga - Why was it so Special?!
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2024, 01:38:31 PM »
It was ahead of its time. Don’t forget PC’s of the time period were no where near to doing what Commodore were releasing hardware wise. The Amiga had a custom chipset which produced Sound and Graphics. It can multi-task. Okay it wasn’t PC compatible so therefore you couldn’t run things like WordPerfect or Lotus 1-2-3 etc… But things like games and the Demo Scene started because of this system.

The Amiga already had PC emulation software at its launch event in 1985! It was shown running MS-DOS or IBM PC-DOS. I think this was the Transformer software. Later on, there was PC Task.

Of course, PCs are crap and have only continued because they came equipped with lots of slots for plug in cards, which the most popular Amiga models didn't have.  Obviously, the less popular A2000, A2500, A3000. A4000, and A4000T models, as well as any more rarely produced variations on those models, such as the A1500 and any I may have missed DID have expansion slots! The A1200 trapdoor slot is actually a Zorro II slot, but I'm not sure if the A500, A500 Plus, or A600 trapdoor slots are Zorro II. Third party expansion units such as the Bodega Bay and Checkmate Digital A1500 didn't produce enough units to give all Amiga A500, A500 Plus, A600, or A1200 users an upgrade path of various Zorro II cards. I once phoned a company advertising in Amigaworld magazine to try and order a Bodega Bay expnsion for my A500, but they just said "Uh, we have not been able to get a hold of those lately". I didn't even know that the Checkmate Digital A1500 added any Zorro II slots to the A500!

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Re: The Commdore Amiga - Why was it so Special?!
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2024, 02:30:01 PM »
Word Perfect was also released for Amiga.

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Re: The Commdore Amiga - Why was it so Special?!
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2024, 03:44:07 PM »
Interesting. Looks like it was released in 1987. I’m guessing the biggest problem was down to floppy disks and formatting for transferring saved documents.
 

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Re: The Commdore Amiga - Why was it so Special?!
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2024, 04:06:05 PM »
Well this topic went off track really fast.

For me, what made it so special. It was an escape from day to day troubles. It was always there when I needed to blow of steam, playing stuff like Turrican, Dune, etc etc.
Plus, made a fair few friends who also had amiga's. I know people bang on about its not just a games machine, I'm sorry, when your 12, word processing and crap like that doesnt really interest you. Not to say I didnt mess around with OS, teaching myself things, like how S-S worked, etc etc.
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Re: The Commdore Amiga - Why was it so Special?!
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2024, 05:05:42 PM »
It was so special because it was much more powerful than other computers of the time, except for very expensive specialist computers, like Sun workstations used by Lucasfilm, or the Gould 9080 computer used for the opening titles of the series "Amazing Stories". The first in the Sun range was the Sun-1 which you can read about on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun-1 , but I can't find any information about the specs of the Gould 9080. I could only find the US prices, but the Sun-1 cost US$8,900 when it was first released in 1982, and the Gould 9080 cost $385,000 at launch "in the mid 1980s". The original Amiga cost about US$1,295 in 1985 at an extra US$300 for a monitor, but the later A500 model was released at US$699 in 1987.

I was interested in creating artwork, doing word processing, and programming, not just in playing games. I’d heard a bit about UNIX as a way to unleash real power. I sometimes found Amiga ports of UNIX programs on Public Domain disks, so this really impressed me. At one point I thought I could even run UNIX on my A500, but later on, I read that only special Amiga models ending with the letters UX could do this.

I bought an Amiga with a 1084S monitor and got the 4,096 colour HAM mode graphics package Photon Paint, as well as ten games. I was creating artwork in HAM mode for some time before getting a copy of Deluxe Paint which only used the non HAM modes.

The Amiga was also a professional quality computer, which was more powerful than PCs or the early MacIntoshes. I was able to run MS-DOS on it, although I didn’t do much with MS-DOS on the Amiga. I’ve never run the MacIntosh System Software OS or UNIX on any Amigas I’ve owned.




 

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Re: The Commdore Amiga - Why was it so Special?!
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2024, 08:37:25 PM »
It was special because it let you do very special things. Consider my experience.

I was just a kid trying to put himself through college in Albany, NY. I was working minimum wage jobs when I wasn't in class. And I was saving my pennies for a computer. I thought I wanted an Atari ST, but then the Amiga 500 was launched. I used every dollar I could scrape up to get the computer, a monitor, a genlock a bit later, some software (Deluxe Paint!).

I spent my nights not sleeping, but learning how to make animations. I got pretty good. So much so that I would watch the local used-car dealership adverts, with their cut-rate Chyron, and thought that I could do so much better. Then the penny dropped.

I knocked on the doors of some of those dealers, and told them I could save them a lot of money if they used my graphics, not the local TV station's. Some of them bit, and I would get paid $250-$500 per commercial. I'd make the cheesy graphics, save them to a floppy, and carry my Amiga and genlock to the TV station. Plug into their patch-bay, and overlay my graphics over the video in real time.

That was a LOT of money back then. One commercial could equal a month's worth of working in the mall.

Yeah, I also played games a whole lot, what with all that extra free time.

One more story that only Amiga made possible :)
 

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Re: The Commdore Amiga - Why was it so Special?!
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2024, 05:32:55 PM »
That and there were stronger alternatives. Amiga was my first experience of wordprocessing and DTP. The first wordprocessor I used was Protext - wrote my school essays on it using an A500 and then later on a A1500. When I went to uni I upgraded to an A4000 030 with 85MB hard drive; 6MB ram and Microvitec 1438 and ran Final Writer. Used to draw diagrams in DPaint and then import them into Final Writer. This is simple copy and paste into MS Word these days but back then in the early 90s was trail blazing (for me anyway).

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