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Title: Two more Amiga apps ported to the iPhone
Post by: hbarcellos on May 09, 2010, 02:42:15 AM
NISP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EaLE-qh0aE

AMOS Crazy Rabbit
(version 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBQOxCu2hKc

(version 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU22AAhgizY&feature=channel

Most probably 90% of AMIGA developers are migrating to the Apple iPhone sdk... Impressive.
Title: Re: Two more Amiga apps ported to the iPhone
Post by: adolescent on May 09, 2010, 03:38:49 AM
Wtf?
Title: Re: Two more Amiga apps ported to the iPhone
Post by: hbarcellos on May 09, 2010, 04:13:04 AM
NISP was an italian sound app with several different loops from famous music of the 80s
Title: Re: Two more Amiga apps ported to the iPhone
Post by: motrucker on May 09, 2010, 04:47:58 AM
This surely belongs in the "who cares Dept".
Now if we heard about new Amiga hardware actually being sold, and new programmers jumping on that band wagon - that would be news worthy.
iPhone crap is just that....
Title: Re: Two more Amiga apps ported to the iPhone
Post by: XDelusion on May 09, 2010, 04:53:33 AM
Pretty cool and all, but ya...

...we'd care more if this were news about something new coming to the Amiga, rather than news about apps being ported to a device you have to hack just to use the way you want to...

Screw APPLE! :)
Title: strange stuff
Post by: lsmart on May 09, 2010, 05:37:01 AM
Quote from: hbarcellos;557243

Most probably 90% of AMIGA developers are migrating to the Apple iPhone sdk... Impressive.


Maybe you should have maked this as irony? Else it looks like troll talk to me.

I never got over the fact that iPhone developers have to repeatedly pay apple to run their own programs. 100$ a year for a big random number? I don´t think so.
Title: Re: Two more Amiga apps ported to the iPhone
Post by: Gulliver on May 09, 2010, 06:20:25 AM
Hi and welcome you to mac.org!
Title: Re: Two more Amiga apps ported to the iPhone
Post by: XDelusion on May 09, 2010, 06:36:15 AM
Ha! :)
Title: Re: Two more Amiga apps ported to the iPhone
Post by: ElPolloDiabl on May 09, 2010, 08:00:20 AM
Quote from: Gulliver;557258
Hi and welcome you to mac.org!


He said iPhone not Mac. I think it is interesting news and I would like to hear when one of my favourite classics get ported to something.
Title: Re: Two more Amiga apps ported to the iPhone
Post by: XDelusion on May 09, 2010, 08:15:58 AM
He'll catch my eye when he begins to announce ports to MorphOS, Amiga OS, AROS, or Haiku.

Outside of that he's just supporting the beast as far as I'm concerned. Tar and feather him I say!!!! ;) (joking)
Title: Re: Two more Amiga apps ported to the iPhone
Post by: Cammy on May 09, 2010, 09:53:30 AM
Amiga.org has become Apple.org

Seems more people pay attention to threads like this crap than they do to Amiga related threads, so I don't even bother making new threads about Amiga stuff on this forum anymore. No one cares about Amiga, it's all about Apple now.
Title: Re: Two more Amiga apps ported to the iPhone
Post by: Amiga_Nut on May 09, 2010, 10:06:43 AM
I don't think there are many people more nuts about the Amiga than me, hence the name, but until Apple make the iPhone unlocked and I can put my own applications on it and not have to use the pathetic appstore for everything it has no positive bearing on me.

I'd rather see them all re-written in Blitz for various computers (of which Blitz supports three major operating systems) :)
Title: Re: strange stuff
Post by: motorollin on May 09, 2010, 10:44:19 AM
Quote from: lsmart;557255
I never got over the fact that iPhone developers have to repeatedly pay apple to run their own programs.


That's not true. The developer can run their own software on their own device, and also issue certificates to a certain number of other devices to run on those. You only have to pay for the developer license if you want to publish on the app store.

--
moto
Title: Re: strange stuff
Post by: LoadWB on May 09, 2010, 11:06:37 AM
I have an idea.  Why not resurrect all of this Amiga vs. Apple/Mac animosity and just ignore that developers who might have otherwise completely abandoned the Amiga have simply migrated to another platform.  Or that the philosophy that is Amiga is the root of new or, even better, ported applications.  Is philosophy not portable, and does it not transcend its underlying hardware?

Where is all the butthurt over DOpus for Windows?  Or perhaps I have missed that as well.

I think it is pretty neat that there are Amiga apps on the iPhone.  I will never own nor have a purpose for one myself, and the mass of nitwits, nerds, dorks, and whomever else would probably never own an Amiga and probably have never heard of an Amiga or its philosophy.  Think of this as a sort-of outreach program.  Missionary, if you will.  (Not to say there are no Amigaoids who own iPhones, or iPhone users who never come to Amiga -- I speak in general, mass terms.)

Meanwhile, I am also pretty excited and enthused that development continues for our aging hardware.  Even more so that some of the hardware is being enhanced, emulated, and so on.  (I personally support such endeavors when I can.)  But should we disparage those who practice Amiga on other platforms?
Title: Re: strange stuff
Post by: EvilGuy on May 09, 2010, 11:24:28 AM
Quote from: LoadWB;557291
Is philosophy not portable, and does it not transcend its underlying hardware?


Sure, it can be, but when you write apps for Apple (in particular the iPhone) you're writing apps with the Apple indoctrination.

Porting Amiga apps is cool, but to a platform that is so alien like the iPhone - saying its an Amiga port is simply trying to cash in on some brand loyalty.
Title: Re: Two more Amiga apps ported to the iPhone
Post by: XDelusion on May 09, 2010, 11:32:07 AM
I will say the first video has a very amusing intro! "To police officers who laid down their lives..."

Very amusing!
Title: Re: strange stuff
Post by: Cammy on May 09, 2010, 11:36:04 AM
Did anyone actually check those videos?

They are NOT Amiga applications, they aren't anything to do with Amigas. There was never some crappy, unlicenced Mr. T typing game for Amiga.

This is pure Apple fanboy spam. You argue for it? You want this? It makes you happy to see this on an Amiga forum? You guys should really look at what you're talking about first.
Title: Re: Two more Amiga apps ported to the iPhone
Post by: spihunter on May 09, 2010, 01:40:54 PM
I'm not sure why everyones getting so fired up. There's quite a few people here that have Iphones and Amiga's
Title: Re: Two more Amiga apps ported to the iPhone
Post by: persia on May 09, 2010, 03:32:54 PM
Exactly, as much as I love 1989, it's 2010 out there and having old familiar software on a modern platform is good.  Apple has inherited a fair amount of the legacy of the Amiga.  

I used to write software for the Amiga, then I stopped writing for any platform.  The iPhone got me back into software development again.  There something really neat about a pocket sized computer.  Had Commodore survived I bet the 2010 Amiga would have a pocket sized version...

Quote from: spihunter;557315
I'm not sure why everyones getting so fired up. There's quite a few people here that have Iphones and Amiga's
Title: Re: Two more Amiga apps ported to the iPhone
Post by: CaptChaos on May 09, 2010, 04:04:46 PM
Quote from: hbarcellos;557243
NISP

Most probably 90% of AMIGA developers are migrating to the Apple iPhone sdk... Impressive.


Apple.org Macsturbation thread TM. 2010
Title: Re: Two more Amiga apps ported to the iPhone
Post by: runequester on May 09, 2010, 04:35:26 PM
It always cracks me up when all the windows guys get riled up about macs. It's like a retarded kid picking on the fat kid in the playground.
Title: Re: Two more Amiga apps ported to the iPhone
Post by: the_leander on May 09, 2010, 04:46:11 PM
Quote from: runequester;557353
It always cracks me up when all the windows guys get riled up about macs. It's like a retarded kid picking on the fat kid in the playground.


/thread
Title: Re: Two more Amiga apps ported to the iPhone
Post by: Karlos on May 09, 2010, 05:09:18 PM
Quote from: runequester;557353
It always cracks me up when all the windows guys get riled up about macs. It's like a retarded kid picking on the fat kid in the playground.

It always cracks me up when people assume that to dislike Macs / MacOS X, you have to be a "windows guy".

OSX is, in my not so humble opinion, UNIX for numpties. Take a perfectly good OS and stick a condescending, dumb-it-down user interface on top of it that assumes you know next to nothing about UNIX or indeed computers in general. Yet don't neglect to stick the big silver "UNIX Based" badge all over the original marketing material; that's sure to impress. And when that "UNIX Based" OS crashes and dies on it's arse, blame it on applications, oooh say Flash, for example. At least AmigaOS never pretended to be immune from applications taking down the OS ;)

And before anybody starts, yes, I used OSX. For two years at work in fact. Thankfully, I got a reduced sentence for good behaviour.

Now I'm using a modern UNIX-like OS that doesn't try to treat me as if I'm pond life.
Title: Re: Two more Amiga apps ported to the iPhone
Post by: kickstart on May 09, 2010, 05:10:10 PM
All of this mac products threads kill all interest of amiga.org.... really.
Title: Re: Two more Amiga apps ported to the iPhone
Post by: adolescent on May 09, 2010, 05:30:52 PM
To be clear, I wrote "WTF?" not because it was yet another Macsturbation thread, but because the videos posted had nothing to do with Amiga software.  Gun sounds and Mr. T typing?  I never saw that on the Amiga.
Title: Re: strange stuff
Post by: lsmart on May 09, 2010, 05:47:15 PM
Quote from: motorollin;557284
The developer can run their own software on their own device


Oh? I have tried it and didn´t manage it, before I paid and got the keys from Apple. I haven´t tried to use the keys after the year was over, I just assumed they stopped working. Maybe I haven´t done my homework? :confused:
Title: Re: strange stuff
Post by: adolescent on May 09, 2010, 05:49:01 PM
Quote from: motorollin;557284
That's not true. The developer can run their own software on their own device, and also issue certificates to a certain number of other devices to run on those. You only have to pay for the developer license if you want to publish on the app store.


No, that is not true.  In order to test on real hardware you need to be enrolled in the developer program and pay (a minimum) $99/year for the privilege.

http://developer.apple.com/programs/iphone/test.html#compare
Title: Re: Two more Amiga apps ported to the iPhone
Post by: adolescent on May 09, 2010, 05:51:48 PM
Quote from: runequester;557353
It always cracks me up when all the windows guys get riled up about macs. It's like a retarded kid picking on the fat kid in the playground.


And the Linux kids are the emo/goth ones right?  :roflmao:
Title: Moderation notice
Post by: Karlos on May 09, 2010, 05:56:36 PM
Quote from: hbarcellos;557243
NISP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EaLE-qh0aE

AMOS Crazy Rabbit
(version 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBQOxCu2hKc

(version 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU22AAhgizY&feature=channel

Most probably 90% of AMIGA developers are migrating to the Apple iPhone sdk... Impressive.


Ok, so I just watched the videos. I have to uphold the original objection(s), what have they to do with amiga apps?

Can you actually provide some proof that these "applications" are ports of existing amiga applications and not something totally unrelated?

Until then, this thread can reside in the "Other Operating System" section.
Title: Re: strange stuff
Post by: bloodline on May 09, 2010, 06:30:13 PM
Quote from: adolescent;557364
No, that is not true.  In order to test on real hardware you need to be enrolled in the developer program and pay (a minimum) $99/year for the privilege.

http://developer.apple.com/programs/iphone/test.html#compare
£50 for a full development environment, compilers, support libraries/frameworks, iPhone simulator, debugging, profiling tools, etc... great technical support, and the opportunity to publish your work at the end of it. Honestly, we never had anything as cool as that in the amiga days. :(

-Edit- see my blog for details ;)
Title: Re: Two more Amiga apps ported to the iPhone
Post by: Pyromania on May 09, 2010, 08:01:06 PM
Quote from: Cammy;557275
Amiga.org has become Apple.org

Seems more people pay attention to threads like this crap than they do to Amiga related threads, so I don't even bother making new threads about Amiga stuff on this forum anymore. No one cares about Amiga, it's all about Apple now.


I did a count and most stuff on here is still Amiga related. We could take a poll to see if most people wanted the Other Operating Systems section removed but I doubt most would. It is easy enough to ignore if you don't like it.