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Offline paul1981

Re: Mapparium - OpenStreetMap client for all Amiga systems
« Reply #29 on: August 02, 2016, 08:26:29 PM »
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What does the "MD5" directly behind the download Version mean on the mapparium page?

To check the integrity of your downloaded file. You'll need a suitable program to generate an MD5 code from your download, which will hopefully match the code given on the download page...If it does match then your download is perfect. Normally useful when downloading huge files, or when you need to know for sure that your download is perfect. I wouldn't bother testing the MD5 on something as small as this.
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Re: Mapparium - OpenStreetMap client for all Amiga systems
« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2016, 06:40:53 AM »
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To check the integrity of your downloaded file. You'll need a suitable program to generate an MD5 code from your download, which will hopefully match the code given on the download page...If it does match then your download is perfect. Normally useful when downloading huge files, or when you need to know for sure that your download is perfect. I wouldn't bother testing the MD5 on something as small as this.



Hummm - perhaps we shpuld better NOT use it, as at the link provided by Oldsmobile_Mike I found this:

The security of the MD5 has been severely compromised, with its weaknesses having been exploited in the field, most infamously by the Flame malware in 2012. The CMU Software Engineering Institute considers MD5 essentially "cryptographically broken and unsuitable for further use".
:nervous:
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Offline utri007

Re: Mapparium - OpenStreetMap client for all Amiga systems
« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2016, 07:44:27 AM »
I have same problem with 68k version. PPC version works nicely.

Snoopdos tell that it crash after some mui libraries are access, is it so that this requires  MUI4?

Anyone with real 68k Amiga shouldn't install MUI4
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Re: Mapparium - OpenStreetMap client for all Amiga systems
« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2016, 09:18:57 AM »
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Hummm - perhaps we shpuld better NOT use it, as at the link provided by Oldsmobile_Mike I found this:

The security of the MD5 has been severely compromised, with its weaknesses having been exploited in the field, most infamously by the Flame malware in 2012. The CMU Software Engineering Institute considers MD5 essentially "cryptographically broken and unsuitable for further use".
:nervous:


That's irrelevant, it's not being used here to encrypt the file, it's just being used to check the integrity of the file. :)
 

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Re: Mapparium - OpenStreetMap client for all Amiga systems
« Reply #33 on: August 04, 2016, 07:51:04 AM »
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That's irrelevant, it's not being used here to encrypt the file, it's just being used to check the integrity of the file. :)



O.K.

But do you have an idea regarding my problems to start Mapparium, as described in my posting #27?

Here the text of my posting #27:

Hummm - donwnloaded and unpacked it.
Double-clicked the icon and then - after roughly half a minute - my system crashes (black screen - reboot).

How can I find out what's going wrong?

My system:

Hardware:
Amiga 4000 (w. Buster 11) in Micronik BigBox Tower with CyberstormPPC (MC68060@50mHz / PPC604e@200mHz; 128 mB Ram) and Mediator PCI busboard (Voodoo4, Terratec 512i digital, 10/100 mBit NIC), as well as Deneb USB 2.0 highspeed in Zorro III.
2 HDs, CD-Rom, CD-Ram, DVD-Ram, tape streamer and flatbed scanner - all connected to the UW-SCSI on the CSPPC.

Software:
OS 3.9 (w. BBs I & II)/WarpOS 16.1
Picasso96, AHI, MiamiDX, IBrowse 3.4, YAM 2.10 dev, Poseidon, ...
(experimental OS 4.0 classic installation)
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Offline ALB42Topic starter

Re: Mapparium - OpenStreetMap client for all Amiga systems
« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2016, 04:54:06 PM »
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O.K.
Hummm - donwnloaded and unpacked it.
Double-clicked the icon and then - after roughly half a minute - my system crashes (black screen - reboot).

How can I find out what's going wrong?

My system:

Hardware:
Amiga 4000 (w. Buster 11) in Micronik BigBox Tower with CyberstormPPC (MC68060@50mHz / PPC604e@200mHz; 128 mB Ram) and Mediator PCI busboard (Voodoo4, Terratec 512i digital, 10/100 mBit NIC), as well as Deneb USB 2.0 highspeed in Zorro III.
2 HDs, CD-Rom, CD-Ram, DVD-Ram, tape streamer and flatbed scanner - all connected to the UW-SCSI on the CSPPC.

Software:
OS 3.9 (w. BBs I & II)/WarpOS 16.1
Picasso96, AHI, MiamiDX, IBrowse 3.4, YAM 2.10 dev, Poseidon, ...
(experimental OS 4.0 classic installation)


What Screenmode you are using? maybe its too small or too less colors?
I never tried that. Other hmm currently I have no idea. Did you try a an other Version before?
 

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Re: Mapparium - OpenStreetMap client for all Amiga systems
« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2016, 12:52:20 PM »
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What Screenmode you are using?



1024 x 768 32-bit BGRA (Picasso96/Voodoo4)

Quote from: ALB42;812239


maybe its too small



Hummm - it seems to fit perfectly for my 4:3 flat screen monitor...

Quote from: ALB42;812239


or too less colors?



Can I have even more colours than in 32 bit?

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...
Did you try a an other Version before?



Nope.
« Last Edit: August 16, 2016, 12:56:28 PM by Dandy »
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Offline kolla

Re: Mapparium - OpenStreetMap client for all Amiga systems
« Reply #36 on: August 16, 2016, 03:32:14 PM »
How about a build that does not rely on FPU?
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Offline paul1981

Re: Mapparium - OpenStreetMap client for all Amiga systems
« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2016, 07:35:12 PM »
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1024 x 768 32-bit BGRA (Picasso96/Voodoo4)



Hummm - it seems to fit perfectly for my 4:3 flat screen monitor...



Can I have even more colours than in 32 bit?



Nope.


Referring to post no. 32, what version of MUI are you using?
 

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Re: Mapparium - OpenStreetMap client for all Amiga systems
« Reply #38 on: August 17, 2016, 07:58:44 PM »
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Referring to post no. 32, what version of MUI are you using?



The readme says v3.8 ...but there`s also a directory "MUIRoyale". But I have a weak remembrance that this is from Hollywood...

How can I find out beyond doubt what I am using?
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Re: Mapparium - OpenStreetMap client for all Amiga systems
« Reply #39 on: August 18, 2016, 09:38:08 AM »
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Mapparium is a OpenStreetMap client for all Amiga systems
...
Check out the Mapparium page.



B.T.W. - as there was no installer script in the Mapparium-folder after decrunching the archive, I assume I can copy the folder to whereever I like and start Mapparium from there, without having to modify the user-startup with an assign to mapparium. Is that correct?

The readme-file also does not tell anything regarding the installation...
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Offline paul1981

Re: Mapparium - OpenStreetMap client for all Amiga systems
« Reply #40 on: August 18, 2016, 11:04:09 AM »
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The readme says v3.8 ...but there`s also a directory "MUIRoyale". But I have a weak remembrance that this is from Hollywood...

How can I find out beyond doubt what I am using?


Yes, you're using 3.8 so that"s fine. In another thread on here that you're currently participating in someone suggested there was something wrong with your graphics card driver setup. I wonder if this could be a reason here too? I can't help further as I don't know anything about RTG setups.
 

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Re: Mapparium - OpenStreetMap client for all Amiga systems
« Reply #41 on: August 18, 2016, 12:07:02 PM »
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Yes, you're using 3.8 so that"s fine. In another thread on here that you're currently participating in someone suggested there was something wrong with your graphics card driver setup. I wonder if this could be a reason here too? I can't help further as I don't know anything about RTG setups.



Yes - to find out why my system crashes upon starting NetSurf, I re-Installed OS 3.9 and the BoingBags I & II.

As for this I had booted from the OS 3.9 CD using the Emergency Disk, it had copied the Voodoo monitor driver file from the Emergency Disk.

The OS 3.9 CD does not know about Mediators and Voodoo graphics card, so the Voodoo driver could only have come from the Emergency Disk.

Therefor I was asked to insert the Emergency Disk each time I booted, which was quite annoying.

After copying the my old Voodoo monitor file over from a backup, I was no longer asked for the floppy disk anymore.

But with regard to my problems starting Mapparium - what about e.g. MUI?

My copy of IBrowse (which I`m just using for this posting) has a menue item "About Mui", where it says:

Library version 19.35,
Mui Release Version: 3.8,
Compilation Date: 12.,02.[19]97 .

Furthermore it says:
Code: [Select]

Custom Class           Version     Date        Copyright

Busy.mcc               17.37       23.7.97     1994- 1997 kmel, Klaus Melchior
IBTextEditField.ibcc   24.1        22.12.2006  2001-2006 Stefan Burstroem
Listtree.mcc           17.36       30.1.97     1995- 1997 kmel, Klaus Melchior
Newstring.mcc          16.18       27.12.2005  1995- 1996 RĂ¼diger Sopp fixes by MM
NList.mcc              20.138      [OS3/m68k]  (05.04.2014) Copyright (C) 2001-2014 NList Open Source Team
NListview.mcc          19.93       [OS3/m68k]  (05.04.2014) Copyright (C) 2001-2014 NList Open Source Team
Aboutmui.mui           19.8        12.02.97    1992- 1997 Stefan Stunz
Floattext.mui          19.8        12.02.97    1992- 1997 Stefan Stunz
Gauge.mui              19.8        12.02.97    1992- 1997 Stefan Stunz
Popasl.mui             19.8        12.02.97    1992- 1997 Stefan Stunz
Scrollgroup.mui        19.8        12.02.97    1992- 1997 Stefan Stunz
Virtgroup.mui          19.10       12.02.97    1992- 1997 Stefan Stunz


As I can remember having updated some mui classes at some point(s) in time, the reason for Mapparium not starting could also be one of the non-original MUI-files.
But which files are original, and which not?

Could a fresh install of the original MUI v3.8 possibly solve the problem?
« Last Edit: August 18, 2016, 12:26:36 PM by Dandy »
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Offline ALB42Topic starter

Re: Mapparium - OpenStreetMap client for all Amiga systems
« Reply #42 on: August 21, 2016, 08:36:15 AM »
@Dandy:

I check my (UAE) Setup where I test my things

Library Version/Release/Compilation Date is the same. Mapparium does not use any "additional" MUI Classes so I guess this should not be the problem.

(I never used MUI4 on classic Hardware, I use and test against 3.8 only on UAE and classic hardware (A1200), but the same code does work on MOS/AOS4, so I would assume it should work also with MUI4)

did you try an other Program like ColorIt or FPCMines from
http://blog.alb42.de/fpc-amigaaros-m68k/
?? if they work it should not be something with MUI (they use the same way for operating MUI classes) But this programs does not need a GFX card, (run fine with AGA 32 Colors, on my real A1200)

@kolla:

Does not make sense to make a non-FPU version, it has to calculate floating point Values with rather high precision. Softfloat is possible but VERY slow and it's nearly to slow already for a 68060 processor. On a 68030 (the last one without FPU) it will be definitly too slow to use.
 

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Re: Mapparium - OpenStreetMap client for all Amiga systems
« Reply #43 on: September 07, 2016, 08:59:27 AM »
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@Dandy:

...
did you try an other Program like ColorIt or FPCMines from http://blog.alb42.de/fpc-amigaaros-m68k/?? ... But this programs does not need a GFX card, (run fine with AGA 32 Colors, on my real A1200)
...



Will try that next week.
You say those programs don't NEED a gfx card - but they work with gfx cards, don't they?
(As I would have to dig my old Amiga CRT out of some cabinet and hope it still works, if the programs would exclusively work with AGA)
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Offline ALB42Topic starter

Re: Mapparium - OpenStreetMap client for all Amiga systems
« Reply #44 from previous page: September 11, 2016, 04:10:22 PM »
Of course they work with a GFX card as well. It just meant they don't use cybergraphics.library function, only graphics.library and intuition.library functions to draw shapes and texts (and no images, where I neex CyberGFX)