Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II

[lempkee]

hmmm...

I completed Freespace ppc on my setup, with NO crashes what so ever, the only prob i had was when miamidx was running, this bug was fixed a few months ago...

Quake2 , completed it with a pc friend over the inet in multiplayer , never crashes ...its slow and all yes (26-30 fps in 640x480x16) but i didnt expect it to go over 100 fps on my lame 603 cpu, on 604 its better..

on amigaone it will fly

so stop complaining unless u have a reason, also the quake 2 release was under gpl and thats why there is 3 diff cd's when u buy it, 1 hyPERION cd (with hyperion exe + installer) and 1 MODS cd and quaKe 2 pC version , i bought mine from vesalia iirc and it was a fair price (30 gbp iirc) , they stated that it would be released like this before they sold it, so i dont see what the fuzz is about,.

you can email me for an unoficial AMIGA DvD case which i have made , i can send u the pictures , but u must print it... , why we did this?? well i hate that it had only a pc cover and a blank cd-r case... so i made a 3 cd holder and a dvd case for it..and use the magnificent cover we made

also an MESSAGE over this board is ok, you choose...if u want then i will send.

[lempkee]

mikey_C: personal attacking....huff..

anyway i agree that total amiga is unbiased,nice mag indeed.

covers pegasos and amiga properly, hopefully it will keep that as a main thing in the future also.

[lempkee]

codesmith: i dont think hyperion would like that, must ask em first.

anyway for personal usage etc, just email me and i will send.. but not for spread on web untill i have checked with hyperion.

[lempkee]

codesmith: ermm well , the cover say Hyperion , it say AMIGA port of Quake2 , it SAY gpl... it say AMIGA , it has pictures and logo's for all who worked on it... it has specs and review scores (amiga)..

i think i should ask before i spread em widely, it was made for personal use...not for everyone,sorry i dont want anyone to get in trouble and i dont want anyone to be mad either, so just hang in there.....or email me..

until then...i wont upload the pictures to an website.

[lempkee]

alot of b.s in this thread now! ...huff..

why attack hyperion like this? , releasing fud etc? ,seriously they are the only "proper" porting team on amiga atm ..imho.

sure they are slow, but thats a hw restriction.
sure they port old stuff, but would u like to have brand new games running at 1 fps ? ,seriously i dont like slideshows called games.

and if quake 2 met legal probs with mods packs then ..ROFL!  , wonder why there is so much support for it then.

and as all know, the mos port was done after the amiga port (hyperion) , typical ..hey let them do the dirty work and we just take the amigasource and port it....

seriously i have no major issues with mos , but all theese claims are starting to @$@% me off!

[lempkee]

jupp3:

>Are you saying, that if person A ports GPL game to platform A,
person B may not port same game to platform B?


nothing bad with that , its just a way of showing ignorance  , we will do it to every mos game that comes

>Ah, serious claim... But luckily you're here to provide proof for it?
(And even if it was true, there would be NOTHING illegal...)

VERY true , its just about , why didnt the quake 2 mos people make another game really? , they could have ported duke nukem 3d while hyperion did quake 2  , its not really THAT crowded with serious porters/game teams at either mos or aos.

anyway what proof do u want? , check any of the source codes, ofcourse the mos version is a fast port, or are you saying that the mos port took about 1 year before it was released ? .
what more proof do u need? , if you have any countertrike proof let me know so that i wont be spreading fud.

btw should'nt you be on MOS.org(or whatever its called) , i seriously think alot of the mos people are bored at that board

anyway enjoy your time but we dont need wars unless you want it to be.


ALL:
anyway b.s makes me sick and tired, so keep hitting me and in the end i will leave amiga and pegasos and just stick to developing for consoles, i know alot more people will do that in the end if this keeps up. (and that comming from me is strong words..)

[lempkee]

I did a bit of research on the matter...

-On Aminet, Quake 2 (Hyperion port) source's age is 31

-MorphOS version of Quake 2 was demonstrated on Pegasos machines in
Aachen show early december last year.
(There should be pictures of that available, if you bother to search)

(You should be able to do some "simple maths" with those numbers)

(I got the info from author of MOS port and AmiNet)

After the MOS port will be released to public, you can study and
compare the 2 (different, I'd say) Quake 2 sources for yourself, and
hey, don't forget possibility to port it to AmigaOS!



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wrong , i beta tested quake 2 at this time last year, if not even longer ago.
it was released in november 2002 at woase. (quake2 by hyperion)
the source code was released the same day under gpl liscense..

anyway if what you are saying, then kewl ...mos people can do ports in less than 4 weeks time...awesome for such complex games ..i SeriOUSLy hope they port more now as that will then make me very happy, descent 2 , descent 3 , descent freespace 2 ..all is open for porting.
duke nukem 3d also , racer is another one...
i could go on and on..

btw.. quake 2 was demonstrated on amigaos and classic hw (bppc/csppc /w3d) even before pegasos hw was out...

also , if what you are saying...is correct, then quake 2 mos is illegal , AS when the game is out under a gpl liscense , THE SOURCES should be out te same minute, i will go and request em NOW!...

cheers

[lempkee]

jupp: i aint talking about stolen betas , i am talking about releasing something under gpl , and myself like many others (i guess) requested the sources for the hyperion port of quake 2 ,
and you all of a sudden claims there is not a mos port now ? , ok so its in beta , that proves i aint following quake 2 mos port since most of all i was led to what u wrote that IT WAS RELEASED (full game) for mos.

so basically you can't buy this for mos yet, so buy hyperion port and stop moaning , but all i know is that it wont run other than in sw mode on most 3d cards due to no support for them...
voodoo3 works i guess.. but i aint sure.

hyperion released the source code the same day it went officially on sale , under gpl rights ...to all who buy it or to all who request em per email/mail etc.

also i was never talking about a leaked (STOLEN) beta , sure i knew one was out for hyperion version but that shows more of how to thrust people at this point ,also if this happened to mos version..well then its the same guy (MY GUESS) .


anyway i will stop answering here now i guess, since we are off topic, but i will request the sources the day its released out of curiosity, but then again it wont be as spectacular as it was before i got to know it was a lEAKED mos release, since that doesnt bend over due to gpl issues.

sorry for all the fuzz and slaughtering, but i guess alot of other people also got upset in here due to what was written by OTHERS than me, and some on me i guess...



pps:good luck on the quake2 mos version,i hope it will live up to whats expected and that people will actually use it (since there is allready 1 leaked hyperion version , 1 leaked mos version and finally 1 commercial (gpl) version from hyperion.

[lempkee]

amigr: sorry but u should know that (since u beta it) that porting the same game twice is crazy when we are allready limited to a few people to do the work, sure if its better then no prob.
but why not just port something we need instead? , like compressors / more games ]/ apps etc.

anyway the discussion was who ported it first, hypeion did, that u should know better than all the other in this thread..

anyway i give up for now... close thread....dead end.