1080 vs 1084

[bbond007]

Oh yeah, it requires you to remove the back all right. Not a bad idea to use a large mirror as you're adjusting also. There are several convergence adjustments that need to be made on the yoke of a picture tube. They're ALL glued as to not be shaken loose, but as quality control has progressively blown chunks throughout the years (can you say unfair_trade_practice or 'sweatshop'?), I do not recommend just anyone try this though. Major shock risk if you've never attempted before and/or are a clumsy oaf. Here's some great info in layman's terms what we're talking about:

Linky to monitor FAQ's

My first 1080 was one that was damaged when shipped to one of my friends VIA UPS and they ended up paying him for the damage but not collecting the monitor. He gave it to me and I was able to repair the main circuit board which was broken right in half. The convergence was way off (not sure if that was even related, like you said could have been factory because it was glued) but i managed get it perfect by pure trial and error, but at one point i thought i'd never get it correct.  I was wearing rubber gloves because i was afraid i'd be electrocuted.... not sure if that is necessary.

before that i was using my A500 with a amber composite monitor. Terrible monitor for an amiga, except for interlace mode which had almost no flicker.

[motrucker]

At some point back when I wrote for a Commodore/Amiga user group, I had a list of makers for the 1804 that was way over a dozen long. It came from Commodore. That included the D and S models too.
I lost my archive of this newsletter. I have just put out feelers to see if any of our old members still this article with the list included.
 I still have both 1080 and 1084S units that all work fine. I tend to prefer the 1080 though. They seem to have consistently better color over all modes.

I should add that the last batch of 1084 monitors did away with the composite connections, since all of the eight bit Commodore machines had been canceled ages back.

[magnetic]

I'd also say that the image might have appeared sharper on the 1084, almost as if the dot-pitch spec was higher, but not until you properly aligned her. I'll always have a penchant for the original 1080 though  :-)

Actually its the opposite AFAIK. The Daewoo made 1084s (d1 , d2) have a Higher dot pitch than the previous versions..

It would be helpful if someone did a youtube vid on fixing common 1084 problems like flyback, solder joints, etc.. many people how are somewhat competent are afraid to work on these units to the voltages THAT CAN KILL YOU. (i'm not joking either)

[Digiman]

Hello, I was just wondering which of these Amiga monitors is higher quality: the Commodore 1080 or Commodore 1084.  I know they have some obvious physical differences but which one in your opinion is sharper/clearer/higher quality/more solidly built?  Thanks.

Barney

The 1084SD (or 1084D? one that looks like the 1080 not the square looking sharp edged one) was terrible and blurry due to anti-glare coating, the regular 1084 has various CRT tubes.

The 14 inch Sony Trinitron of the mid-late 80s in white with RGB scart cable is what smart people purchased

(I owned both and had the Sony and 1084 running side by side and the difference was massive)

[Digiman]

I never had a 1084 but I had 3 1080s and they lasted 20 years before they died. I doubt these new HDTVs  or flat screen pc monitors will last that long.They built them to last back then. I know the 1080 was made in Japan, but were the 1084s made in japan too?

I have some early 90s laptops and the TFT LCD screens are perfect on them still.

[Digiman]

I don't recognise the aspect ratio problems of our American friends at all. Whenever I've used a 1084 or 8833, the screen has been filled both in 50 and 60 Hz modes. The monitor resyncs when you switch modes. Is this some 1080 specific problem or something specific to American 1084 monitors?

My 14 inch Sony Trinitron from the 8833 era did the same, 60hz mode on ST or Megadrive stretched the screen so no border.

[magnetic]

My 14 inch Sony Trinitron from the 8833 era did the same, 60hz mode on ST or Megadrive stretched the screen so no border.

I've got both you guys beat I have a Sony 20" Professional RGB Video Monitor that does both PAL and NTSC even have an amiga rgb cable for it!

A couple of things really cool about 1080 is that the top of the case is flat so you can put something on top comfortably.  Also as stated earlier having the Cool Amiga Logo is priceless!

One thing I love about the 1084 white monitors with commodore in blue is the front push button to select RGB/CVBS compared to lame D1 and D2 revs where you have to push the button in the back of the case!

[Crumb]

I have a 1084S-D2, any info on this one?

Thanks.

As Magnetic has written, 1084SD1/2 were made by Daewoo, not Samsung. My 1084SD admitted 73Hz of vertical refresh and still works perfectly after 21 years.