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Re: "Letting the World Know"
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2002, 09:04:25 AM »
YEAH!!!

Amiga IS BACK (Maybe) :crazy:
 

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Re: "Letting the World Know"
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2002, 09:14:11 AM »
Ksk wrote
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Interesting way of announcing that "sorry we will not be in Aachen".

They seem to be letting the whole show be run by thendic/bplan...

If Ai misses the Cebit, then it's bye bye again.


The Aachen show is not the same as Cebit and what part of this did you not understand.
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The first of these shows will be the official launch of the AmigaOne and AmigaOS4.0, to occur at the CeBit show in Germany in March
 

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Re: "Letting the World Know"
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2002, 09:19:21 AM »
Oh ####... I guess we'd better make some killer apps by March  :-o  :-D
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Re: "Letting the World Know"
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2002, 09:31:47 AM »
@fjudde

Sure the Cebit is bigger than the Aachen-show, but is it more
important for potential A1-costumers ? I have my doubts.

Amigians from germany will go to Aachen, because it is the only
Amiga-related show in Germany this year.

Ex-Amigians interested in "retro" will go to Aachen.

M$/x86-haters will go to Aachen as they don't care about names.

All these people will the see a working Amiga-like system.

The Cebit is:
5 months away.
Very expensive, and I doubt that AInc has enough money for their
own stand.

They might get a small stand on the M$ one, but I doubt the will
be allowed to show anything else than their DE-stuff.

The typical Cebit-audience is not interested in something that
is just an odd geek-computer with next to no new SW.
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Re: "Letting the World Know"
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2002, 10:31:00 AM »
@Balti

My posting was aiming at the fact that Ksk's posting could be interpreted as cebit and Aachen was the same. And that Ainc mabe was not going to attend Cebit, even though they had clearly stated so.

I have no doubts that a small show can be more important than a huge show like Cebit. Ainc would probably drown. But if they could pull some publicity stunt, maybe show some awsome apps that the community and/or sw companys made things could turn in our fawor. :-)
 

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Re: "Letting the World Know"
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2002, 11:00:43 AM »
"Sure the Cebit is bigger than the Aachen-show, but is it more important for potential A1-costumers ? I have my doubts."
The Cebit IS more important than the Aachen show. Everyone who potentially would attend the Aachen show, would know almost everything about the product. With the limited timeframe I doubt that amiga would have anything new to show. You will have your basic aOne booting into dos, and thats it.
The CeBit however: 99% of the attendees just know amiga by reputation. Tons of journalists and more... And you can bet that even the smallest booth gets ####loads of attention when they announce that they have a new OS and hardware to run it on.
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Re: "Letting the World Know"
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2002, 11:10:15 AM »
@Desler
Ah I see you have never been to a CeBit...

There will be thousand of booths, so everybody is forced to think
on what he wants to see before he goes.

There will be thousand of new products, and all the papers will be
cramped with it. No space for the sidenote of an 80's computer
reapearing.

The market for A1/OS4 are existing users, and those who left in
the last 5 years, and those will be easier to target in Aachen.

But I think your are right:
AInc/Hyperion have nothing to show by Aachen, and they know it.
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Re: "Letting the World Know"
« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2002, 11:47:35 AM »
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The market for A1/OS4 are existing users, and those who left in
the last 5 years, and those will be easier to target in Aachen.


Existing users ~ 2000
Former Amiga users ~ 5 million
+ all the users tired of Windows and/or looking for an alternative which should be an amount larger than the mac and linux communities put together in size.

My point with these numbers (which are no kind of facts but rather educated guessing) is that the exisiting Amiga community and those going to retrocomputing shows is only a small fraction of the targeted market segment of the AmigaOne and AmigaOS4. Like the announcement said; by March they are going from survival mode to growth mode. Focusing your resources on a global marketing campaign and attendance at the really big shows like CeBit makes perfect sense if these are your intentions.

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But I think your are right:
AInc/Hyperion have nothing to show by Aachen, and they know it.


Oh but surely they do. It's just that they have other products aiming at a completely different market ready for launch by then. So, rather than making PR for unfinished products they focus on marketing those products ready for launch first. It's simply a matter of priority.
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Re: "Letting the World Know"
« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2002, 01:22:35 PM »
Ben talked about releasing some new screenshots quite soon?  ;-)
 

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Re: "Letting the World Know"
« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2002, 01:35:57 PM »
Hi
My suggestion: Get an office space with "easy to find" address first!
People will not believe an "Officeless" company! :-)

For Asia, I suggest CeBit Asia in Shanghai.  If 1 in 100 thousand people in China buy Amiga products, the number of Amiga customer will reach 10 thousand!

CeBit Asia

In several Asian countries, it is extremely difficult to obtain visa for Australia.
 

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Re: "Letting the World Know"
« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2002, 01:39:28 PM »
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No space for the sidenote of an 80's computer reappearing


Don't be so sure.....

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AInc/Hyperion have nothing to show by Aachen, and they know it.


Fair enough. I'd be more worried if they *didn't* know it.

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Re: "Letting the World Know"
« Reply #25 on: November 20, 2002, 01:43:01 PM »
We have all seen how Amiga Inc can make very little look like the gift from the Gods. So I have confidence that they can make their presence felt at CeBit.
 

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Re: "Letting the World Know"
« Reply #26 on: November 20, 2002, 02:56:29 PM »
>Ehum, so two shows in Europe then, not one.

Nope just one, UK isn't Europe. That's an isolated island empire ;-).

Okay that was a bit too easy.

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Re: "Letting the World Know"
« Reply #27 on: November 20, 2002, 03:16:28 PM »
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Nope just one, UK isn't Europe. That's an isolated island empire


UK is the 51st state and Blair is Bush's little puppet.

So 2 shows in the US then.
 

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Re: "Letting the World Know"
« Reply #28 on: November 20, 2002, 03:21:21 PM »
> UK is the 51st state

As observed by 'The The' many moons ago.... :-)

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Re: "Letting the World Know"
« Reply #29 from previous page: November 20, 2002, 03:42:57 PM »
This is good for Amiga INC, but this is not what I've been waiting for. Sorry, but AmigaONE is no new Amiga for me. Its a PC clone.. PC hardware with PPC in it.

I just hope that the ColdFire project will change this, but when.. That uncertain.
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