AmigaOS 3.1 source code leak - official statement

[Gulliver]

You're not googling correctly.  Lol.  It's there.  I'm tempted to download it and look thru it for various gems.  I bet it has some....historical purposes,  it would be cool to have a copy of it... actual workbench source. Very cool.

It has a lot of gems. Inside, there is a nice word document about the path Amiga development was heading when CBM went Bankrupt. It shows that software wise, there was nothing really new in the works. That AmigaOS v42 was at very initial stages and it was AmigaOS 4, that was going to bring RTG as standard to bridge the gap between 68k Amigas, Haynie´s AAA and PA-RISC. And that PA-RISC with a 3D engine was the future (PPC was never even mentioned). And then there is a lot of hardware based on the CD32 that was targetted at different markets.

[kickstart]

Real amigaOS should be owned by the users, free and open sourced at this days.

[TheMagicM]

It has a lot of gems. Inside, there is a nice word document about the path Amiga development was heading when CBM went Bankrupt. It shows that software wise, there was nothing really new in the works. That AmigaOS v42 was at very initial stages and it was AmigaOS 4, that was going to bring RTG as standard to bridge the gap between 68k Amigas, Haynie´s AAA and PA-RISC. And that PA-RISC with a 3D engine was the future (PPC was never even mentioned). And then there is a lot of hardware based on the CD32 that was targetted at different markets.

That alone makes it worth the download.

[Hammer]

The Pope's Catholic and water is wet.

Your point is?

You are implying a conflict between Cloanto and Hyperion when Cloanto is selling AmigaOS 4.1 FE as an bundle option for Amiga Forever 2016 Plus/Premium package.



I'm running AmigaOS 4.1 FE via AF2016's WinUAE out-of-the-box on my Wintel PCs.
AmigaOS 4.1 FE's $29 USD is cheap and I don't understand the constant hate for Hyperion.

[kolla]

You evil you, running stolen code with WinUAE.

[nicholas]

You are implying a conflict between Cloanto and Hyperion when Cloanto is selling AmigaOS 4.1 FE as an bundle option for Amiga Forever 2016 Plus/Premium package.

Wow! Please tell me how on earth you came to that conclusion?

I'm running AmigaOS 4.1 FE via AF2016's WinUAE out-of-the-box on my Wintel PCs.
AmigaOS 4.1 FE's $29 USD is cheap and I don't understand the constant hate for Hyperion.

I'm running it on Pegasos II, a PC, a Mac and previously ran it on a BPPC.

Your point is?

[wawrzon]

And that PA-RISC with a 3D engine was the future (PPC was never even mentioned).

if thats true, it may finally silence everybody boldly claiming amiga was or was going to be ppc truly and officially.

[OlafS3]

if thats true, it may finally silence everybody boldly claiming amiga was or was going to be ppc truly and officially.

Yes and No

As far as I know Commodore never planned PPC but the successor (Amiga Technologies / Escom)

[orange]

I hope that projects like aros or vamos would benefit from this.

[Iggy]

if thats true, it may finally silence everybody boldly claiming amiga was or was going to be ppc truly and officially.

Do we really care what Commodore intended to do as their slow development and limited investment killed the system?

The community moved forward with PPCs.
Escom would have gone in that direction.

Arguing about a dead HP ISA is pointless.

If you don't like PPCs you're free to continue to use legacy equipment or mainstream PCs.
I have Win7 and Win 10 systems, but they don't substitute for my NG hardware.

[wawrzon]

Do we really care what Commodore intended to do as their slow development and limited investment killed the system?

commodore let it fade away, but third parties insistance on ppc was the final blow that actually killed away what was was left of it.

[VingtTrois]

I was thinking that only AMIGA Inc. (Bill McEwen) is the owner of the AMIGA OS 3.x/4.x for the world!

[AAACHIPSET]

I think what Hyperion doesn't understand is that most people that are happy about the leak are not AmigaOS 4.x/PowerPC fans.  They are 68K people and will likely NEVER move to AmigaOS 4.x/PowerPC, so they are not biting the hand that feeds them.

Perhaps if Hyperion catered a bit to the much larger 68K market their statement might make more sense.

The buzz around Natami showed that what most Amiga users want is a continuation of the original Amiga idea, what most users would have liked future Amigas to look like - which is not necessarily what Commodore would have done.  I, and I think most 68K users, would have liked continually enhanced custom chipsets to keep the Amiga unique and better than the rest of the PC market.  AA/AAA/SuperAGA/whatever.

Catering to the tiny AmigaOS 4.x/PowerPC market seems bizarre to me.  Hyperion/A-EON would be much better off continuing development of AmigaOS 68K and moving forward with a FPGA project in my opinion.

i wish somebody would  do a upgrade of the amiga 68k  graphics  sound  etc...always wanted it ...really  new it will never happen ..always hoped though ..couldnt agree more with your comments

[gaula92]

I will express my opinion: since Hyperion has the rights to come here and express theirs, I think I have the same right.

I hope this leakage leads to advancements in AROS and in general open source Amiga OS reimplementations, which ARE the future of the platform like it or not.
Amiga OS 4 and it's small userbase won't hold for long: in the long term, open source alternative OSes with collaborative development on cheap hardware platforms are the future: look at what Linux is for the old Unix world, and what Open RISC OS is for the RISC OS world.
Open or die. That's how things work for alternative OSes.

Since these short-sighted people at Hyperion are failing to see this, I hope and truly wish that Hyperion disapears from the face of earth so they finally stop actiong like the patent trolls they are.

[psxphill]

It has a lot of gems. Inside, there is a nice word document about the path Amiga development was heading when CBM went Bankrupt. It shows that software wise, there was nothing really new in the works. That AmigaOS v42 was at very initial stages and it was AmigaOS 4, that was going to bring RTG as standard to bridge the gap between 68k Amigas, Haynie´s AAA and PA-RISC. And that PA-RISC with a 3D engine was the future (PPC was never even mentioned). And then there is a lot of hardware based on the CD32 that was targetted at different markets.

Everything you mentioned was well known for years, it's nice to have an actual document from the time though.

Commodore were pretty much dead when it was written, it took a little while longer for them to bleed out. The cd32 mpeg addon, the cd1200 and the cd33 (cd32 expansion module) is the only thing in that document that I ever saw. AAA was pretty much canned, I'd like to know how this ties in with the first chips coming back and the nyx prototype. AAA was always going to be a bad idea, AA earlier would have hands down been a better use of money. I will never know what they were thinking when they started.

Hombre is probably the least documented system, it seems to be written in some form of HDL and I only ever heard they had software simulations. The people involved aren't like the usual maniacal commodore engineers. The PlayStation was developed in a similar way, using a MIPS compatible soft core rather than PARISC.

I suspect if commodore had limped along for another year we would have seen the integrated 68020+AGA, but not much else & Sony would have eaten their lunch in the end regardless of what commodore did. They didn't even know Sony were coming, they were only thinking of 3do/Atari/Nintendo/Sega.

[Gulliver]

I am sorry to burst your bubble, but the document contains details, what was out there was general information. It is a good read as there are lots of conclusions that can be driven by interpreting it, and it sheds some light on some previously unheard hardware.