Should i buy OS4.1 Classic?

[cha05e90]

Alternatively, you can continue to sit on a £1000 worth of hardware and have it collect dust...

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[Gav]

Thanks for the replies, i used to use my amiga a lot mainly during the time of my putting the machine together as it has been in a few variations until i finally got the PPC card which to be honest I've had no use out of.

The main reason being is i was having problems getting Ward3D to run correct etc and then i left it for awhile during which i bought a new monitor. When i felt like giving my amiga a go with the new monitor i was having problems getting the settings correct as it looks ugly as hell on my widescreen in 1024x768.

Selling the system did pop in my head a  few times but it's one of those things i wonder if id regret? i did enjoy using it when it was all running properly though.

[Thorham]

you can't really even enjoy the new RunInUAE setups as UAE emulation is too slow on the Classics.

Why anyone would want to use an OS that needs classic emulation on, wait for it, classic Amigas is completely beyond me.

However, we're all a bit bonkers for using such old hardware

Speak for your self. It's a hobby, and not a very insane one at that.

[nyteschayde]

Hi
Not sure if anyone remembers me on here? my Amiga has sat collecting dust the past few year and well i was wondering if OS4.1 is any good for classics?

What are the benefits? just hoping someone could give me the run down?
Thanks

My A1200T has always been slightly buggy. That being said, having everything including the early boot menu show up (after the OS4.x kernel loads) on my Radeon 9250 is like a dream come true. OS4.1 is (almost) everything I had ever hoped 4.0 would be.

I am having other issues with my internal IDE controller be despite those issues, I am still very much loving the crisp beautiful display and speed of OS4.x. (Long story short; I had a 4xIDE'99 device from Elbox that died on me and without the right cables setting up something directly on the motherboard for a HDD has been trying; awaiting a new FastATA 1200 MkIV from AmigaKit)

I just tried to put a SATA card in it auto detected both the card and HD right quick. As more and more drivers (and updates) get released, I think the OS4.1 is really the place to be.

As far as should you buy it, decided whether or not you actually want to spend $140 for a machine you don't use often (from the sounds of it). If you want to use it more and have used OS4.0, 4.1 is a no brainer (at least to me).

I found that I like OS 4.1 so much in fact that I've considered trying to find a non-classic PPC Amiga. I have other Amigas if I wanna get down and dirty retro. If anybody out there is interested in trading one of their extra (hehe) modern SAM or similar PPC Amigas for my pimped A1200T let me know.

The machine has:

Blizzard PowerPC (non-SCSI) 603e/233 68060/50 192MB RAM
Elbox Mediator 1200 SX
IDE CD-ROM (likely upgraded soon to a DVD-ROM)
ATI Radeon 9250 (256MB only 128MB visible; not sure why)
Subway USB
Indivision AGA (which I may want to keep for my other Amiga 1200)
Boots into OS 4.1 Classic Beautifully

The Radeon also works well in OS 3.9 and I a working on getting one of Mechy's PCI Spider USB cards as it will have much faster access than the Subway device.

[Karlos]

I found that I like OS 4.1 so much in fact that I've considered trying to find a non-classic PPC Amiga. I have other Amigas if I wanna get down and dirty retro. If anybody out there is interested in trading one of their extra (hehe) modern SAM or similar PPC Amigas for my pimped A1200T let me know.

Obviously, that's your call, but I find there's a lot of emotional investment tied up in my old A1200T, given that I've had the base A1200 it's built from for 19 years. I doubt I could easily part with it

[mousehouse]

Agreed... it's not just the OS in whatever version but the hardware as well. I remember reading AmigaWorld at night drooling over the A3000's just released. A few years ago I finally got one (and a 'T' recently). Can't really let them go for nostalgic reasons, even if WinUAE runs everything faster, better, etc.

I enjoy using my classic hardware and look forward to playing with 4.1 on it - even if it is dog-slow.

[itix]

Obviously, that's your call, but I find there's a lot of emotional investment tied up in my old A1200T, given that I've had the base A1200 it's built from for 19 years. I doubt I could easily part with it

I think you could When I was selling my A1200 8 years ago I thought it could be missing it.. so many memories were with my BlizzardPPC and other Amiga gear. But in the end I got more money from my Amiga 1200 than I spent on NG Amiga system. There was no reason to use old Amiga anymore when new system was so much faster and AGA demos didnt run on RTG anyway.

[slayer]

Of course you should, then a bit later get a SAM then an X1000

I really don't see what the problem is here ;-) it's obvious!

[amigadave]

Hi
Not sure if anyone remembers me on here? my Amiga has sat collecting dust the past few year and well i was wondering if OS4.1 is any good for classics?

What are the benefits? just hoping someone could give me the run down?
Thanks

If it is your only Amiga (made by Commodore/Escom/Amiga Technologies), then I would keep it and maybe consider buying OS4.1 for Classic.  If you have any other Amiga's, I would consider selling the pimped out A1200 and use the money to help purchase a new, or used SAM or new X1000.

I sold my two Cyberstorm PPC accelerators for my A4000's to help me purchase a new X1000.  I realized that I never ran any PPC software on my CSPPC's, so I was better off with the money and a CS Mk2 w/68060 @80MHz for my A4000.

Selling your BlizzardPPC and all the extra parts that you have added to it from being a stock A1200, to help you purchase a Next Gen OS4 computer might be a good solution for you too.

[Ancalimon]

In my opinion if you are not really using your Amiga at all, you should sell the BlizzardPPC and BVision (while they are still working and extremely expensive) and get yourself a 030 card for whdload. Also get an AmigaOne for OS4.1.

[nyteschayde]

Obviously, that's your call, but I find there's a lot of emotional investment tied up in my old A1200T, given that I've had the base A1200 it's built from for 19 years. I doubt I could easily part with it

I may change my mind when I get the rest of the hardware I just ordered (the FastATA MkIV & the supported nic card for 4.1), but this Amiga was never converted to a tower by me.

I have done quite a bit to it since I got it, but nonetheless it never held the same warmth in my heart that my original A500 did. I actually bought this one after buying the Blizzard PPC. I foolishly thought I was going to use it in my A4000D which I also still have, collecting dust. I had just upgraded the A4000D with a mediator 4000Di and thought I was buying a PPC for it. I didn't pay attention that I had bought the wrong type. So I rushed out and picked up someone else's A1200T project and started over again.

Bought another mediator for the A1200. Got the BlizzardPPC and noticed the fan was going and found someone online to repair it. This person also upgraded the crystals and the onboard CPU from a 040 to an 060 and upgraded the RAM from 64 to 192.

I put in a Si3114 SATA card tonight and that helped normalize things a bit but I am still having some occasional weird issues that I need to track down. Specifically with copying large files. I still love OS4.1. I also have a mostly stock A1200 in a wedge case sitting behind me as I type running an old flying toasters screen saver.

So even if I do part out, sell as a single unit or keep my A1200T I still have other Amigas to keep me company. I am seriously thinking about it because I want an AmigaOne 500. Who know's I may eventually just fork out the cash and buy one and keep everything.

[Karlos]

I think you could When I was selling my A1200 8 years ago I thought it could be missing it.. so many memories were with my BlizzardPPC and other Amiga gear. But in the end I got more money from my Amiga 1200 than I spent on NG Amiga system.

It's different in my case. For me, the 1200T is the evolutionary "missing link" that joins the dots between the original Amiga machines and the PPC-only machines that have come along since. It's a multiboot machine and presently runs all versions from 3.1 onwards. Having it makes my A1 machine that sits on top seem less of a disconnect.

There was no reason to use old Amiga anymore when new system was so much faster and AGA demos didnt run on RTG anyway.

Again, my 1200 is at an interesting intersection. Sure, it's a lot slower than my A1 for PPC native code. However, when running 4.1 it's also significantly faster than my 68040 was for many legacy 68K applications and if they require the original chipset for anything, they still run.

[Ryu]

I must admit I really regret selling my A1200T with PPC etc all those years ago, I wonder if it is still alive and in one piece somewhere?

Sigh, If only you could turn back time!

[Kesa]

@Karlos. Do you really have your Amiga's stacked up on each other? :lol:

Not trying to brainwash anyone but have you considered swapping your A1 for a MOS Macmini? Imagine the space saving benefits...  :rolleyes:

[Karlos]

@Karlos. Do you really have your Amiga's stacked up on each other? :lol:

http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=1727

The machine under the desk is the A1. It's now sat on top of the A1200T in place of the old PC that was there. Said PC is now in the other room for experimenting with esoteric operating systems (MenuetOS was the last one).

Not trying to brainwash anyone but have you considered swapping your A1 for a MOS Macmini?

I've had the A1 for long enough now that I'm feeling a bit sentimental towards it too. Given that it's still in working order, it's also becoming something of a rarity.