AmigaOne X1000 booting AmigaOS4.1 Update 3

[wawrzon]

Do I really need to type a fitting word for you now or can you figure out what I think of that comment all by yourself? I can give you a hint: Actually there are several fitting words and none of them are positive. But hey, you didn't understand why I wrote what you quote so you probably won't figure this out either ;-)

you score 1:0 here, sir, not joking.

Today 08:14 PM

@ takemehomegrandma
i think he means, that the current stage of whats presented to the public i this video was already public last year, that means os4.x booting and slowly working on x1k hardware. no noticeable progress here. for me it is just inline with other amiga related ng projects such as natami or fpga arcade. not enough steady updates here, even though x1k still promisses best bang per buck, though with probably steeper investment ist the most risky alternative.

[takemehomegrandma]

for me it is just inline with other amiga related ng projects such as natami or fpga arcade. not enough steady updates here, even though x1k still promisses best bang per buck, though with probably steeper investment ist the most risky alternative.

Wouldn't call neither the natami nor the fpga arcade "Amiga NG related", but rather an extension of the classic line where you use the "real" Amiga OS 3.x (with various additions to support new HW features of the natami). The AROS, MorphOS and OS4 projects clearly differs from this, different ambitions altogether.

[Akiko]

You mean like "what HW were they running back then, since OS4 runs like this on the X1000 today?"

Or perhaps it's reverse engineering, and I mean *literary* reverse engineering; like starting with a developed, fast product, and then "develop it in reverse" to become an undeveloped, slow product? :lol: :p

@Piru @Koaftder @Zylesea @Jorkany @takemehomegrandma @Kronos

Well it comes as no suprise that all the usual suspects from the anti Hyperian camp are here in force to wreck yet another AmigaOS 4 releated thread. You guys are a very small minority, that personify all that is nasty, rotten and ugly in this community.

[Franko]

Wouldn't call neither the natami nor the fpga arcade "Amiga NG related", but rather an extension of the classic line where you use the "real" Amiga OS 3.x (with various additions to support new HW features of the natami). The AROS, MorphOS and OS4 projects clearly differs from this, different ambitions altogether.

I'd agree with that wholeheartedly...

The NatAmi and fpga are really just alternatives for those of us who enjoy "Classic" Amiga's and are in no way remotely anything to do with the stuff folk call "NG"...

Put it this way if the NatAmi was going to be "NG" ie: OS 4.x or MorphOS based then I would have no interest in it at all, as the things people call "NG" just aren't true Amiga's to me in any sense of the word...

[Norway]

@Piru @Koaftder @Zylesea @Jorkany @takemehomegrandma @Kronos

Well it comes as no suprise that all the usual suspects from the anti Hyperian camp are here in force to wreck yet another AmigaOS 4 releated thread. You guys are a very small minority, that personify all that is nasty, rotten and ugly in this community.

+1

[commodorejohn]

Well it comes as no suprise that all the usual suspects from the anti Hyperian camp are here in force to wreck yet another AmigaOS 4 releated thread. You guys are a very small minority, that personify all that is nasty, rotten and ugly in this community.

It comes as no surprise that any thread in which people are in any way critical of Hyperion or OS4 in the smallest degree brings a bunch of wailing about meany mean bullies from the True Faithful...I'm just a little surprised it isn't only HotRod making a fool of himself.

[HotRod]

It comes as no surprise that any thread in which people are in any way critical of Hyperion or OS4 in the smallest degree brings a bunch of wailing about meany mean bullies from the True Faithful...I'm just a little surprised it isn't only HotRod making a fool of himself.

And you really don't think that people such as yourself isn't making a fool out of yourself? What do you really think that people think of these silly negative comments? I know the answer and so does everyone who doesn't belong to that small group. I'm no bigger fool than you are, that's for sure.

[jorkany]

@Piru @Koaftder @Zylesea @Jorkany @takemehomegrandma @Kronos

Well it comes as no suprise that all the usual suspects from the anti Hyperian camp are here in force to wreck yet another AmigaOS 4 releated thread. You guys are a very small minority, that personify all that is nasty, rotten and ugly in this community.

Oh please! Save it for your fellow Hyperion worshippers. You don't have to be in some minority to watch that video and see that the X1000, after two+ years of development, simply isn't living up to the "What is X?" hype from early 2010.

Everyone can see that it's slow, it's underwhelming, it's going to be overpriced, and it wouldn't be much a surprise if it never gets out of beta. It isn't anything that Amiga should be about, and it's not the fault of me or anyone who you named above. if you want somebody to blame for your crappy OS4 experience blame Hyperion and Co.

[Argo]

I recall we all went through this same discussion with a similar video with the A1 XE, I think that was the model.  In that case it was unoptimized video driver and debugging on, which you only see out the serial port.
Likely the same here. This is likely use to show progress also. Isn't it suppose to ship with 4.2 anyway?

[HotRod]

Oh please! Save it for your fellow Hyperion worshippers. You don't have to be in some minority to watch that video and see that the X1000, after two+ years of development, simply isn't living up to the "What is X?" hype from early 2010.

Everyone can see that it's slow, it's underwhelming, it's going to be overpriced, and it wouldn't be much a surprise if it never gets out of beta. It isn't anything that Amiga should be about, and it's not the fault of me or anyone who you named above. if you want somebody to blame for your crappy OS4 experience blame Hyperion and Co.

I can run debug mode and show a video from my A1, and you can go "Oh nooo, it sucks, it's sloow!". Then I can turn it off and show it again and you can go "Oh it boots fast! It doesn't look too bad!", then I can turn it on and you can go "Holy crap, that's awfull, what a overpriced piece of junk", then I can turn it off again and you can go........

See where I'm going with this?

[Duce]

Jorkany, it's obviously a WIP video.  Anyone who has ever seen a PPC machine boot OS4 knows that it looks nothing like that test code munge in the video.  While I agree with you in the fact the X1000 is overpriced and limited in market appeal, I don't think based on Hyperion's past showings they would release the OS in a form that takes 2 minutes worth of debugging to boot up.  I know they won't, in fact - my SAM has none of those issues, a simple bootloader msg along with detected drives info then right into Workbench in seconds flat.

[kolla]

See where I'm going with this?

That the A1 has a crappy serial output?

[klx300r]

Jorkany, it's obviously a WIP video.  Anyone who has ever seen a PPC machine boot OS4 knows that it looks nothing like that test code munge in the video....

don't bother...just the usual suspects doing their best to spread FUD.  If it booted in 15 seconds then they'd have the same FUD to spread.  

Yup they just love to troll on AmigaOS4.x related threads over & over & over again on this site:confused:

[HotRod]

That the A1 has a crappy serial output?

Like talking to a 3 year old that has never used a computer. Shouldn't you be on some site for knitting or something? It's probably more suited to your personality and knowledge.

[wawrzon]

Wouldn't call neither the natami nor the fpga arcade "Amiga NG related", altogether.

for simplicity. perhaps i should rather talk about hardware projects in amiga segment.

[HotRod]

Nice life they're living