AmigaOne X1000 booting AmigaOS4.1 Update 3

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Not exactly fast at booting, is warm boot quicker?

42 seconds not quick enough for you? Damn quick compared to my AMD 4800X2 with Vista.

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Nope, that's really really slow. I can only assume it's due to debug, missing driver support or something or that sort.

But as they say, "you can only make the first impression once".

LMAO, that's a fair comment. Maybe it is due to debugging, I'm sure time will tell, serial debugging is enabled on the video.
It's a shame more people don't shout at Microsoft about boot times.

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Vista? If you've never heard of it you shouldn't ask, it will only taint your soul and in the end the knowledge of it will drag you screaming into hell. Trust me, pretend you never saw it.

I'll wait and see what the boot times are like without the debugging going on before I get dismayed. SAM boots fast, no reason that X1000 shouldn't as far as I know. Maybe Trevor will post another video soon, or at least post on this forum to let us know what sort of boot times to expect without the debug. That would be awfully nice of him......Trevor... are you reading this?

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Company posts update.....people moan about it....company says "screw this, let's go somewhere where we will be appreciated"... ...people moan about lack of companies doing anything with the Amiga....hmmm.....

So just for the record:

Thanks Trevor, nice to see some work being done. Keep it up, some of us appreciate your effort and continued support for the Amiga platform.

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He's a Belgian professional cyclist who rides for UCI ProTour team "Team RadioShack".
.....wrong one?

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but considering how much this thing will be crashing

.....and you know this how?

Ah, of course, you don't actually know this at all. You are presuming this to be the case therefore leading me to believe that you would criticize no matter what the video showed.

So tell me, what have you done for the Amiga lately? Have you been developing an alternative to Hyperions hardware? Are you working on Aros or MorphOS? Did you or are you writing Natami drivers? Please share with us, you obviously know more than the rest of us.

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Hey I wish them the best,

Hypocrite!

In an earlier post you stated, in reference to the X1000:

"but considering how much this thing will be crashing"

An unfounded statement that you cannot have any evidence to back up as the damn machine isn't out yet, and now you say you wish them the best :/

Either your making unfounded statements about reliability or you wish them the best, you can't have it both ways.

As for Aros, I'll be installing that to my netbook once I pick up a new usb stick. I have no problem with any of the Amiga flavors of OS or hardware and truly do wish them all success. I just don't feel the need to make false and presumed statements about the ones I don't use, you clearly do.

If you find the cost of the X1000 too much or it doesn't interest you, why bother commenting? This is (or at least was) a news item thread to pass on a progress report to those who are interested. I don't understand why you would even bother reading a thread about something your not interested in, unless of course you are interested and in denial. If your not in denial then I must take it that your genuinely not interested in the X1000. This is what you would have us believe yes? Of course that's the case, no interest at all, you've made that point perfectly clear, so something else about this thread must interest you then........

....I wonder what that might be. Perhaps you just like to wind up people who are interested. Well that would make you a troll as well as a hypocrite wouldn't it. If that was the case, of course... ..I'm sure another explanation must exist, please.... .do enlighten us.

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It's laughable.....if you disagree with the X1000 fanboys, they immediately label you a troll....no facts, nothing objective......just a lot of BS about how they love the X1000 and that it's so wonderful and that we're not giving Hyperion and AEON a chance......oh please....

And I'm so hurt to be on dreamcast270mhz's ignore list.....NOT.

You've missed the point haven't you. Either this news item is of interest to you (hence, read thread) or it is not (do not read the thread). To read the thread AND comment on it in a negative way, whist claiming no interest at all in the subject (in this case the X1000) clearly makes you a troll. How the hell can you not see that.

Ah, of course you can, you would have to be an idiot not to, and I presume your not an idiot so you must be a troll.

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Well first of all, what a ridiculous assumption you made. The OS may still be OS4 but the hardware is made by a totally different company. Your assumption is like saying "Vista doesn't work on my Advent PC so I don't see why it would work on my Dell PC". A clearly insane statement.

As for wishing them the best and having an opinion, fine, just be more wary of stating opinion as fact or you'll get people like me jumping all over your comments.

For the record, I'm not an AOS fanboy, I've stated many times that I have interest in all Amiga flavors (including Aros) and I'm most definitely not "funny", I consider "funny" as a personal insult, I'm British dammit, we don't do "funny"!

Now about the speed thing...... er...what exactly are you doing on Amiga that requires such speed? The simple fact of the matter is that many new computers (and I include ipad, netbooks and all) are not particularly fast. Most computing just doesn't need a top speed CPU. Gaming and 3d rendering has traditionally been the drive for faster CPUs in home systems but even this now falls to dedicated GPUs. Stop banging the same old drum, it not as meaningful as your making out.

Don't misunderstand me on this, I don't agree with all that Hyperion has done but I'm not in the position they are. I have my own opinion on what I would like to see on an NG Amiga, (it's not x86 either),but this thread however, is not the place to discuss it.

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No doubt the EfikaMX is a great board, I would love one, maybe I'll buy one. I would love to see MorphOS and Aros both running on the SAM and X1000 too, choice is a good thing.

Now however you've gone and forced me to reveal a little about what I think Hyperion should have done. That's have a good long chat with Genesi.....

...oh well, such is life.

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If you exclude games consoles, and you shouldn't as they are very popular computer platforms. Granted they are very optimized for a specific purpose but mass chip sales still drives down prices whatever box they come in, console or otherwise. PowerPC is far from dead.

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It's great to see a British chip company doing so well and just for the record, I have to agree that ARM is the way to go. If I could have it all my own way I would make Natami an official product whilst developing an OS4 ARM system and an add-in ARM CPU board for the Natami too. This would give the best of "classic/os3.9" with Natami followed by ARM OS4 with the add-in Natami ARM card bridging the two platforms.
This would also bridge nicely between a true hobby platform with Natami and something truly commercial with a new ARM based machine.

....but they didn't ask me.

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With so much software available that wants to run at startup, they get quite a bad reputation.

Yeah, that's part of it. My XP netbook is pretty quick to boot to be honest but my Vista machine (a 4800X2) is a bit of a slug, I should spend some time trimming out the startup I guess. I would use hibernate more as it's far quicker but I live in a place that suffers way too much power fluctuation from the grid to make hibernation reliable, safer to shutdown.

My fault for living out in the sticks. I'll take a look at the Windows 8 link in a mo and see how it's shaping up.

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The ebb and flow of the popularity of various processor architectures has more to do with IP licensing and business processes than their technical details.

Well put, cash talks more than any form of logic or common sense any day.