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Offline Pgovotsos

Re: What is the real power of Akiko chip in cd32 ?
« Reply #149 from previous page: January 14, 2017, 07:36:24 PM »
FWIW kippet2k has said a few times that he wants a Vampire for the CD32. Don't know if anything will ever come of it but he is a member of the team.
 

Offline Pgovotsos

Re: What is the real power of Akiko chip in cd32 ?
« Reply #150 on: January 14, 2017, 07:38:30 PM »
Quote from: JimDrew;819187
I made a video driver for FUSION that uses the Aikiko for the CD-32/SX1 combo.  DEFINITELY worth the time to make the driver as the C2P is a lot faster than any 020/030 setup.


Did you ever make that publicly available? Would it also work with CD32/SX32 or was there something particular on the SX1 that tied it only to it?
 

Offline psxphill

Re: What is the real power of Akiko chip in cd32 ?
« Reply #151 on: January 14, 2017, 10:05:04 PM »
Quote from: Pat the Cat;818631
Disagree with your there. CD32 accelerators have a big problem - volume available, and airflow.

SX-64 was a hot little bugger - literally.

Of course if you put something hot inside the CD32 then you have a problem, but you're assuming that a CD32 vampire would be as hot as a SX-64 and also that a CD32 vampire would be inside the CD32 case. It could easily stick out the back if heat was a problem.
 

Offline kolla

Re: What is the real power of Akiko chip in cd32 ?
« Reply #152 on: January 15, 2017, 01:09:03 PM »
There is plenty of space in a CD32, really, more than enough for both a card, cooling ribs and a fan.

It's like a garage in there!
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Re: What is the real power of Akiko chip in cd32 ?
« Reply #153 on: January 15, 2017, 04:54:35 PM »
The biggest obstacle I can see to an internal accelerator card for the CD32 is that the cpu is surface mounted.
Frankly I'd rather have an external card, that way it could be used with the SX1.
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Re: What is the real power of Akiko chip in cd32 ?
« Reply #154 on: January 15, 2017, 05:57:38 PM »
Quote from: Iggy;819778
The biggest obstacle I can see to an internal accelerator card for the CD32 is that the cpu is surface mounted.


Er... guess how the SX32 Pro is connected :p
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Re: What is the real power of Akiko chip in cd32 ?
« Reply #155 on: January 15, 2017, 07:56:13 PM »
Quote from: Iggy;819778
The biggest obstacle I can see to an internal accelerator card for the CD32 is that the cpu is surface mounted.
Frankly I'd rather have an external card, that way it could be used with the SX1.

@Iggy

Kolla is correct in that the CD32 had a trapdoor like expansion slot that allowed the connection of the FMV MPEG-1 Video Card and a range of accelerators culminating in the SX32-Pro with 030 50Mhz CPU and EDO Ram slot.
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Re: What is the real power of Akiko chip in cd32 ?
« Reply #156 on: January 19, 2017, 11:35:43 PM »
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Did you ever make that publicly available? Would it also work with CD32/SX32 or was there something particular on the SX1 that tied it only to it?

Yes, this driver was included with FUSION.  It worked with the CD32 setup.  I used the SX1 with mine, but there is nothing required other than the CD32.
 

Offline Pgovotsos

Re: What is the real power of Akiko chip in cd32 ?
« Reply #157 on: January 20, 2017, 03:03:25 AM »
Quote from: JimDrew;820127
Yes, this driver was included with FUSION.  It worked with the CD32 setup.  I used the SX1 with mine, but there is nothing required other than the CD32.


Is it still possible to buy / get Fusion anywhere? I have iFusion but not  the latest version of the regular Fusion. I have 3.1 from a cover disk but I know that there was at least version 3.2. If it's not possible to buy it anywhere now, do you have any idea if the cover disk version included the Akiko driver?

PS I'm really looking forward to the Vampire version you've mentioned on eab. It's great to see you developing the software again. My Emplant was great until lightning zapped it :(
 

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Re: What is the real power of Akiko chip in cd32 ?
« Reply #158 on: January 20, 2017, 03:31:29 AM »
Quote from: kolla;819779
Er... guess how the SX32 Pro is connected :p


Since I own an SX1, I hardly have to guess.
My point being an internal accelerator is not practical for the CD32.
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Offline Pgovotsos

Re: What is the real power of Akiko chip in cd32 ?
« Reply #159 on: January 20, 2017, 06:26:53 AM »
Quote from: Iggy;820141
Since I own an SX1, I hardly have to guess.
My point being an internal accelerator is not practical for the CD32.


My SX32 Pro seems to be fairly practical. Temperatures don't get much higher with a CF card although a spindle drive adds about 10°F. Still not bad though.

The main impractical part is finding one :)

A Vampire type accelerator mounted internally shouldn't be any worse than an SX32 Pro. Better because it's smaller, lower voltage and feels a good bit cooler. As others have said, the expansion connector is essentially a 1200 trapdoor connector. A Vampire 1200 mated with the connector kipper2k has already developed gives you a fantastic internal accelerator for a CD32.

If I'm reading things correctly (not a given) it sounds like the Vampire 1200 is progressing well. Once it's done, add the expansion connector and you've got a sweet CD32.

At least so says the genius whose hardware skills go no further than recapping :)
 

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Re: What is the real power of Akiko chip in cd32 ?
« Reply #160 on: January 23, 2017, 11:06:48 PM »
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Is it still possible to buy / get Fusion anywhere? I have iFusion but not  the latest version of the regular Fusion. I have 3.1 from a cover disk but I know that there was at least version 3.2. If it's not possible to buy it anywhere now, do you have any idea if the cover disk version included the Akiko driver?

PS I'm really looking forward to the Vampire version you've mentioned on eab. It's great to see you developing the software again. My Emplant was great until lightning zapped it :(

The driver for the CD32 was originally released with Mac1200, which was the Mac emulation I did for the A1200.  So, FUSION definitely has the Akiko driver for it and that should be included with the cover disk.