PC still playing Amiga catchup

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An internal Blu Ray drive will run around US$110.  So it should have been a bog standard PC + US$110.  The news said the US turned off it's non-HD TV last Saturday, where does that leave non-HD Amigas?

I hate to nitpick, but he stated 'probably 15 years ago'.
I'd hardly see you doing any of those things on a bog standard PC from 1994

Heck, most of the PC's out there today can't do all of those things, let alone at the same time.

(Disclaimer: this does not mean I don't feel PC's have long since surpassed the old Amiga, it merely means I feel most people on these boards overstate the capabilities of the average PC)

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It really hard to think of a use for a floppy, they hold about a quarter of an average song or half a holiday snap.  My Flash drive is far smaller and holds 8 GB.

My experience with floppies was not a happy one, they were prone to failure, slow and just cantankerous.   I don't miss them one bit.

I hate to nitpick, but he stated 'probably 15 years ago'.
I'd hardly see you doing any of those things on a bog standard PC from 1994

Heck, most of the PC's out there today can't do all of those things, let alone at the same time.

(Disclaimer: this does not mean I don't feel PC's have long since surpassed the old Amiga, it merely means I feel most people on these boards overstate the capabilities of the average PC)

It's true that my current system has a multiformat card reader where the floppy might fir but my old AMD duron has a floppy disk drive and I never had any problems using it with either Win2K, WinXP or Linux.

I do fully recognise the "floppy death" syndrome that seems to infect PC's from a decade ago when people were using Win9x. I think it had more to do with the design of Windows than the hardware.

Actually, my work PC also has a floppy drive. Let me mount /dev/floppy and see what it does...

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Most smartphones have passed the Amiga long ago, did you see the new Samsung Android?

There seems to be a consensus that a Mac/PC is actually designed for SOHO/Satanic Accountants.:madashell:
Maybe I should have titled this, "Smartphones, still playing Amiga catchup."
I can see that consoles have surpassed their original design (adding live etc.)
But, some are holding out (including myself) that the Amiga was designed to be a home computer...

Happy New Years btw. I can still see this argument continuuing for a while yet.

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Yeah but how many wind chimes can the average PC user need?  


Originally Posted by stefcep2  
Too funnny!! We now have a "good" and "bad" side of the catch up game. Floppies are still being made and still being used..on PC's. Never ever saved any amiga program to an audio cassette ( can it be done)

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Perhaps this thread could be the beginning of a new coffee house section, well actually given the delusional nature of these postings maybe it should be called the crack house section.

How is it clearly not true?

PCs have been playing catch-up ever since Amiga was introduced.  They have had higher processor speeds/computational power even before Amiga was introduced.  They are still playing catch-up in some areas.  Their API method of approach is making it worse for them.

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Yep, why would anyone at Microsoft would know or care about a computer that died 15 years ago?  Oh, they are in Seattle and if they are ice hockey fans they might have heard of the Amiga Centre at Kent....

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Classic Amiga isn't competing against anything, the company that produced it went belly up 15 years ago.  It's a hobby machine that some of us find fun to play with, it's a bit of history.  It's a great learning tool to learn the basics.  Modern OSs do everything for us, the Amiga doesn't, it forces you to understand what you are doing and do it manually.  There is no competition for classic Amiga except the competition against time and electronics...

Classic Amiga wasn't a serious threat against SGI and it's OpenGL standard. Both ATI and NVIDIA follows the SGI’s approach.

Classic Amiga is not competing against the “PC” i.e. it’s competing against redressed old school RISC vendors e.g. DEC (AMD, Intel, Microsoft), SGI (ATI, NVIDIA).

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I run a small computer department at a University and I can tell you what keeps the IT department running, people who really shouldn't be using a pencil without safety glasses being given a computer to play with.

God knows how many deaths we'd have if they had Amigas instead of PCs...

Hi,

UHHHH, Maybe if you only use a Windows installed computer once or twice a year, come to think of it I have never seen a Windows computer that is used every day go without at least 2 crashes a year, that is why the place where I work has an IT department staffed with about 200 personnel, they are either fixing computers or re-installing windows on them. My one last thought, would you board an aircraft if you knew that windows was running all the digital instrumentation on it?, or would you drive a auto if you knew windows was running your auto computer?

Now my A4000 which gets turned on for use at least twice a week hasn't crashed since 1993 and still has my data on it since then, and I must admit my 2 gig hard drive is getting quite full, I still have about 1.2 gig free for use, might be another 10 years and I will have to think about installing a larger hard drive.

PC users can you claim this?

smerf

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Yeah, the reason for backward compatibility is to provide a bridge so that software manufacturers can catch up with the new system.  You provide it for a reasonable amount of time and then you move on.  The only reason anyone is interested in running 15+ year old software for the Amiga is because the company that produced the Amiga *DIED* 15 years ago.  If they had survived *nobody* would care if the current Amiga OS was compatible with with the old stuff.

I couldn't do 10% of what I do now on 15 year old software.  Life moves on.  That's the way in the computer world.  In the Mac world Carbon is finally being put to bed, it's junk but it had to be there initially, now it's just a waste of good electrons...  This is what happens in living systems.  You evolve and progress or you die.

whatwhatwhatwhat!?

That's incredible, if you didn't exist, someone should have invented you: every night I come here to see if there are any news, and you always bring to me some delight.

Ok, so X64 architecture has dropped 16 bit compatibility. And now? How can we live with this? "there are millions of DOS/Win31 programs out there". One for every gameport? Once again, I have to inform you that we are in (late) 2009, 10 years after that 16-bit programming has been considered "deprecated" on the x86 architecture, and that today almost nobody still uses DOS. So anyone willing to use ancient code and ancient programs has the ability to run them on a virtual machine.

What are you? Some sort of technoecologist, desperately fighting for obsolete solutions preservation?

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Basically we are looking at a trend of a shift to PCs from specialised game machines.  If it continues and there is evidence, at least in Asia, that it is continuing, PCs will overtake the specialised game machines in total.  The market is not static, what is today may not be tomorrow.  And you are right, one indication will be the stores, they will lag the trend only by a month or so, but they will reflect local and not global preferences.

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Anything with less than 4 cores is a light use machine....

Unfortunately every time I try to give up on KDE I find none of the alternatively do everything I want.

KDE4 has a lot of good features, its just REALLY bloated and unstable.  My login regularly suddenly crashes, that very rarely happened with KDE3 and doesn't generally happen with KDE4 under light use - but who wants a 3.2Ghz Core 2 Duo with 8GB RAM for "light use"?

I have been half tempted to just run AmiWM, would have loved it had it continued development but its plain ugly by todays standards and lacking in functionality.  Even Gnome is missing some things I use on a day to day basis that KDE has, sadly.

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It's a metaphor for banging the hardware whilst multitasking...

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C'est un Cochon?

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Here in Australia we would say:

PC still playing Amiga tomato sauce

Since the word catchup never really got here.