Individual Computers: New Indivision models, A600 expansion, Chameleon delayed

[amigean]

Great news!

Question: What would the ECS Indivision offer for the A3000 that the onboard SD/FF doesn't?

(I presume better quality, scanlines, new modes?)

[Darrin]

Poster: amigean  Posted: 2009/3/30 8:34:07

Great news!

Question: What would the ECS Indivision offer for the A3000 that the onboard SD/FF doesn't?

(I presume better quality, scanlines, new modes?)

A 60Hz PAL mode for starters.  That's quite handy if you don't want to worry about your LCD working with it or not.

[Schoenfeld]

HighGFX also works on ECS chipset. Not all that colourful, but still better than the standard screenmodes.

Indivision ECS uses a totally different concept - again. It's not taking the picture data from the Denise video output, but it's taking the data that comes through the DMA channels from Agnus. In theory, we'd have the freedom to invent totally new screenmodes, but that's rather pointless with little to no software for such a toy.

We might play a little with a custom mouse pointer, but that's all I'd go for. I really don't want to create a new platform.

Jens

[amiga1260]

Isn't it possible to use a little longer cable from an A603 with Indivision ECS without removing the diskdrive?

I want to drill a hole in the casing just above the Video connection.

[Schoenfeld]

Any cable between the flickerfixer and the Denise socket would introduce signal noise, and the flickerfixer would only work unreliably - if it works at all.

If you want to use a cable, do it on signals that are meant to go over cables, such as the floppy drive. There are nice and extremely flat laptop disk drives that you may be able to hack into the case of an Amiga.

Jens

[Lockon_15]

I hope mounting Indivision ECS in A500 won't be prohibitive or complex as one described for A600.

Perhaps there are fair chance it would co-exist with installed A500 clockport as well ?

[voyager]

why only 1 MB and not 8 fast for wdhload? Is this not possible true the a600 trapdoor?

Jens, can you please, please, pleeeease make a memory expansion for the cd32? together with the indivision it make's a kickass gaming console.

[kolla]

Dont forget clockport for CD32 :-)

Well, anything that can give a CD32 (with or without SX32) ethernet really.

The trapdoor on A600 can only do chipram, fastram needs to be strapped directly on the cpu. There are already solutions for this.

[alexh]

Darrin wrote:
A 60Hz PAL mode for starters.

And the wonderful jerky scrolling that goes with it.

[alexh]

voyager wrote:
pleeeease make a memory expansion for the cd32

You cannot get the MCA 182-pin edge connectors anymore. Certainly not ones in RoHS plastic. Not that it is beyond Jens to make them, but the tooling costs are almost certainly prohibitive. To make a CD32 Fast RAM expansion which fits inside the case is relatively easy, especially for Jens.

voyager wrote:
together with the indivision it make's a kickass gaming console.

A RAM expansion would (IMO) be of more use than an Indivision at making the CD32 a "kickass gaming console".

[alexh]

Schoenfeld wrote:
the A600 case is extremely small, the disk drive needs to go in order to make room for Indivision ECS.

Ouch!

I guess all A600 owners who want an Indivision ECS will need to rush out and buy a PCMCIA SRAM card and an 2.5" hard drive (or IDE->CF).

[jiffydos]

I personally am REALLY excited about having an indivision ECS in my A2000 and A500.  I figured those platforms were abandoned at this point.  Pleasant surprise!

Now I will finally be able to get that NEC multisync off my Video Toaster desk and stick a nice large flat panel on there instead!

[Schoenfeld]

You cannot get the MCA 182-pin edge connectors anymore. Certainly not ones in RoHS plastic.

I have a few samples here. When I paid the tooling for the A1200 CPU-Slot connectors, I made sure that the tool is flexible enough to also make different kinds of Raster-1.27mm-connectors. The A603 80-pin connectors were made on that same tool. I can deliver pretty much any 1- or 2-slot connector between 2 and 182 pins. When I was in Taiwan in 2007, the tool was updated to increase the withdrawal force on each pin to 15 grams per contact pair in order to ensure a contact resistance of less than 0,03 ohms. In other words: These connectors are higher-quality than anything that has ever been used in the Amiga market before.

Development of a mem expansion for the CD32 requires lots of money - I'd need a couple of hundred pre-orders. Also, "just memory" wouldn't do the trick, you'd surely want a CF card connector and a harddrive on it, right? Oh, a keyboard would also be nice.. see, we're quickly approaching an SX32. More money to spend...

Jens

[AndyFC]

Jens,

Just want to say thank you for the fantastic work you are doing (and have done) for the Amiga.

One day, when I am on a bit more cash, I'll be upgrading my A1200T, and I think 90% of the stuff I would like is crafted by you.

[kolla]

alexh wrote:
I guess all A600 owners who want an Indivision ECS will need to rush out and buy a PCMCIA SRAM card and an 2.5" hard drive (or IDE->CF).

Or remove the floppy drive and put a disk there, the very few times you need a floppy drive just use an external one.

I'm more curious about whether Indivision for A600 will fit together with the Apollo-630, I cross my fingers  :-?

[kolla]

Development of a mem expansion for the CD32 requires lots of money - I'd need a couple of hundred pre-orders. Also, "just memory" wouldn't do the trick, you'd surely want a CF card connector and a harddrive on it, right? Oh, a keyboard would also be nice.. see, we're quickly approaching an SX32. More money to spend...

The CD32 already has a minidin for keybard, where you can plug in amiga keyboards :-)

So, RAM + CF/SD + clockport (why have noone done a simple ethernet device for clockport yet, like on the C64?!) and I'm content.