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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: goldfish on March 13, 2017, 10:59:51 AM
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Hi All
anyone else having trouble with Amigaworld site ?
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Yep it's been down for a while now.
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It's a hardware issue in the USA server company. They are working on it.
TrevorD
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Thanks
Trev
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A hardware issue? In this time and age? May I suggest moving to a vhost provider? Digital Ocean, Vultr, Upcloud, Linode... there are so many these days, and the cost is just a couple of beers per month.
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Its a corrupt FileSystem so hopefully not hardware related.
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ISP charge prices in beer now?
Must make things tricky, places like Utah and Saudi Arabia... :)
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The server main hard disk has a mirror backup so the data is being extracted from the second hard disk and then it will be restored and rebooted. This process will take some time before it can booted in recovery mode.
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Get the site on the cloud, not reliant on one machine that way and probably no more expensive if you pay per MB.
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There is no cloud! Only other peoples computers. Cloud is not warrent for stability.
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There is no cloud! Only other peoples computers. Cloud is not warrent for stability.
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An opportunity to merge Amiga.org and Amigaworld.net, just point the latter to this site.
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There is no cloud! Only other peoples computers. Cloud is not warrent for stability.
Of course there is the cloud! Even many, I see them every day! There is also AmiCloud now, but it's checkered Red and White only at sunset and sunrise. :laugh1:
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The server main hard disk has a mirror backup so the data is being extracted from the second hard disk
"Second hard disk"? As in, singular? You mean these things don't even run RAID? Sorry, just picking on your use of words, here. I'd hope that in 2017 these sites would be running on more robust computer hardware! :lol:
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Its a corrupt FileSystem so hopefully not hardware related.
Matthew say the true it was running on an amiga3000 ux ;-)
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I wonder if they are using "traditional" fix techniques?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKwWHFm803o
No disrespect intended, post made for fun only.
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Yes it's a raid system.
However, that picture you posted looks suspiciously like the system of a person who shall remain nameless (let's just call him Tim) whose cats p**d all over his X1000 motherboard (repeatedly).
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RAID1 dude - not cool.. Get some more HDDs in there and go for proper redundancy. Also install SMART and other hardware alerts. The bright spark who said "there is no cloud, only other people's computers". Well yes, they are other people's but Amazon, Apple, Microsoft to name a few - your data spread over tons of devices - pretty good chance of redundancy there.
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Wait... what??? Repeatedly??? but how?
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ISP charge prices in beer now?
Must make things tricky, places like Utah and Saudi Arabia... :)
I measure all prices against beers, it's how I rationalise most of my expenses :lol:
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I seriously hope duplicating the sites to more locations with proper redundancy is being considered. 2-3 locations for database backend and as many web frontends you like, using anycast address or "floating IP address" shared among them. Bonus feature - become available on IPv6 already. Also, someone with DNS skill to take care of hosting the domains, especially amigaworld.net suffers from crazy TTL values!
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Wait... what??? Repeatedly??? but how?
The cat was paid in beer too. Once you break the golden seal and all that.
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Its a corrupt FileSystem so hopefully not hardware related.
The server main hard disk has a mirror backup so the data is being extracted from the second hard disk and then it will be restored and rebooted. This process will take some time before it can booted in recovery mode.
hmm... if it is only a hard disk fault, what takes so long to get the faulty disk replaced and the raid rebuilt? Been there, done that, offline time max half a day.
And even more mysterious: what killed the domain zone of amigaworld.net? None of the (tested) subdomains irc,de,se,se2,no,fr.amigaworld.net do exist anymore. No A record, no CNAME record. Don't tell us you were using the amigaworld.net server also as its own DNS and only switched to your hosters NS (ns.123-reg.co.uk) after the accident O.o
Well, it would be good if at least the domain zone could get fixed asap again to reinstate the IRC network at least.
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hmm... if it is only a hard disk fault, what takes so long to get the faulty disk replaced and the raid rebuilt? Been there, done that, offline time max half a day.
And even more mysterious: what killed the domain zone of amigaworld.net? None of the (tested) subdomains irc,de,se,se2,no,fr.amigaworld.net do exist anymore. No A record, no CNAME record. Don't tell us you were using the amigaworld.net server also as its own DNS and only switched to your hosters NS (ns.123-reg.co.uk) after the accident O.o
Well, it would be good if at least the domain zone could get fixed asap again to reinstate the IRC network at least.
Costel you dont belive me when i been write the farm was using an amiga 3000 ux ;-)
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Doesn't make any difference for my questions, does it? ;)
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And even more mysterious: what killed the domain zone of amigaworld.net? None of the (tested) subdomains irc,de,se,se2,no,fr.amigaworld.net do exist anymore. No A record, no CNAME record. Don't tell us you were using the amigaworld.net server also as its own DNS and only switched to your hosters NS (ns.123-reg.co.uk) after the accident O.o
I have been moaning about this for years - they have been operating with a 300 seconds TTL on the entire damn domain - and the SOA is the darn box that also is the web server - it is down for 5 minutes and amigaworld.net disappears from DNS.
(http://tinyurl.com/htyh2ve - post 385 - and lots of helpful comments by besserwissers ensued.)
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Is it bad that nothing that has happened has surprised me? The running of this site seems like a part time after thought these days. I fear it may never go back online! :-(
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RAID1 dude - not cool.. Get some more HDDs in there and go for proper redundancy. Also install SMART and other hardware alerts. The bright spark who said "there is no cloud, only other people's computers". Well yes, they are other people's but Amazon, Apple, Microsoft to name a few - your data spread over tons of devices - pretty good chance of redundancy there.
why running your own hardware at all? Today there are big providers everywhere who offer you a professional price at affordable price. Make a backup of the database from time to time and a backup of the webpages to restore them if necessary. More important of course are the data.
Even if a simple RAID-System... no Backups at a different place?
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We have here 2x 16 core Xeon Machines and all is working in Vmware servers... one machine is up the second is the backup . the vms are backuped every day and the backup is stored for days in the second machine and on a remote server. this is the present ;-)
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There is no cloud! Only other peoples computers. Cloud is not warrent for stability.
lol how the masses are brain washed by the hype:hammer: nowadays they want no real physical hard drives in computers any more and only 'cloud' so big brother has access to all anytime and the minions eat it up
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Yes and that is also one of the big problems with sevices like, not limited to, google Docs and so on.
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hmm. not the first time awnet goes offline. seems not very easily maintainable considering blacklisting stuff and such, now it may occure its due to the technics used. i understand the ambition to run a site on an antique quarter of century old setup, but its a bit pity for that dumb application. given the ownder are os4 engaged, why dont they run it on some x1k or whatever has been considered more powerful and contemporary? are there stability issues even under *ix preventing this?
now, funny to think what would happen if it all went down the drain at once. with it fair amount of overall trolling backup, a fair piece of historical eveidnce. who knows, with majority of this lost, chances for some sort of restart of relationships in the scene might even improve.
not that i expect the individual recall to be erased immediately, just some sort of simple fate strike, perhaps unexpected for most, might be changing the course of this particular narration.
haha!
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I have no experience of the site, but am trying to be positive here.
It sounds like it was due for a complete rebuild anyway, so maybe that is what is happening?
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I measure all prices against beers, it's how I rationalise most of my expenses :lol:
LOL, does this currency come in different denominations? EG: "That'll cost you a Gulden Draak, two DABs, and a Bavaria."
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Sorry I missed it if it was clarified somewhere, but was this site really running on a single A3000UX? Kudos if it was, but hardly what I'd use for a web server in 2017, lol. :lol:
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I doubt it. But I could be wrong.
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