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Title: AROS Hardware Poll
Post by: dammy on January 08, 2004, 05:21:25 PM
Here is a small poll (http://www.thenostromo.com/cgi-bin/vote/index.cgi) to see what you would want for running AROS on.

Title: Re: AROS Hardware Poll
Post by: Gopal on January 08, 2004, 06:14:05 PM
Am I blind or is PPC missing from the list?
What am I to do if a cheap as possible laptop is my choise?

Well it isn´t. AmigaOne, Peg2 or a cheap iMac is (I don´t have any of those yet though).

It´s one important detail these three systems have in common and it´s the prosessor. We should support it to get the price down. Wintel has to much power in the market.

If AROS want´s to go 64-bit, you should go for the G5.
Fanless, chose G3. laptop, go iBook.

 ;-)
Title: Re: AROS Hardware Poll
Post by: dammy on January 08, 2004, 06:57:23 PM
Poster: Gopal Date: 2004/1/8 13:14:05

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Am I blind or is PPC missing from the list?


No, your not going blind.  :-D

Dammy
Title: Re: AROS Hardware Poll
Post by: jdiffend on January 08, 2004, 06:59:13 PM
They forgot 'None of the above' as an option.
Title: Re: AROS Hardware Poll
Post by: bloodline on January 08, 2004, 07:01:04 PM
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Well it isn´t. AmigaOne, Peg2 or a cheap iMac is (I don´t have any of those yet though).

It´s one important detail these three systems have in common and it´s the prosessor. We should support it to get the price down. Wintel has to much power in the market.

 


Important point to note: The A1 and the Peg already have "Amiga Like" OS's... and how do you think Dammy could sell a Mac, preinstalled with AROS without Apple getting a bit pissed off... not to mention for a reasonable price.
Title: Re: AROS Hardware Poll
Post by: dammy on January 08, 2004, 07:18:58 PM
Poster: jdiffend Date: 2004/1/8 13:59:13


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They forgot 'None of the above' as an option.


Sure there is, the back arrow on the web browser. ;)

Dammy
Title: Re: AROS Hardware Poll
Post by: Loki1 on January 08, 2004, 07:39:02 PM
I vote for a laptop without a floppy drive.

Currently it wont boot on my floppyless laptop
It gets stuck in endless loop seeking the missing
floppy!:-x

Loki
Title: Re: AROS Hardware Poll
Post by: Gopal on January 08, 2004, 07:39:40 PM
@bloodline

If they were looking for a business opportunity, they should have asked another question, not limit the possible answers.

A "refurbished"  mac with AROS on it sounds like a possible business opportunity to me. If it´s bought from Ebay or something, apple won´t care.

But with another question, I might have answered
"go for the miniITX, fanless console/mediaplayer thing, not laptop or pda".
Title: Re: AROS Hardware Poll
Post by: bloodline on January 08, 2004, 07:54:15 PM
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I vote for a laptop without a floppy drive.

Currently it wont boot on my floppyless laptop
It gets stuck in endless loop seeking the missing
floppy!

Loki


I had this problem, though not on my Laptop, I cured it but switching support for a floppy drive on in the BIOS even though no Floppy drive was on the machine... AROS worked fine after that :-)

-Edit- As always, use the latest build of AROS.
Title: Re: AROS Hardware Poll
Post by: Loki1 on January 08, 2004, 08:03:40 PM
I will give it a shot!

Loki :-)
Title: Re: AROS Hardware Poll
Post by: bloodline on January 08, 2004, 09:37:07 PM
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A "refurbished" mac with AROS on it sounds like a possible business opportunity to me. If it´s bought from Ebay or something, apple won´t care.


Nice idea, but someone would have to get hold of the hardware docs for these macs :-)
Title: Re: AROS Hardware Poll
Post by: angrybrit on January 08, 2004, 11:27:36 PM
I just want AROS to work on Intel Chipsets. ;-)
Title: Re: AROS Hardware Poll
Post by: XDelusion on January 09, 2004, 12:06:44 AM
The VERY low end to thie very High end AMD support is a must, but it would be nice to be able to make use of all those OLD Mac performas people have siting around collections dust.

 Remember those old computers that had some power to them, but Mac OS was too damn bloated to make good use of them? :)

XBOX  xbox-scene.com

 Dreamcast   dcemulation.com

GamePark 32  http://consolevision.com/

Gameboy Advanced  http://consolevision.com/

 Consoles is where it is at as well!
Title: Re: AROS Hardware Poll
Post by: Loki1 on January 09, 2004, 12:09:16 AM
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had this problem, though not on my Laptop, I cured it but switching support for a floppy drive on in the BIOS even though no Floppy drive was on the machine... AROS worked fine after that


No go!

Here's the deal:

The floppy can't be disabled or enabled.

Floppy access is external USB only.

CMOS can't be accessed as usual at boot-up (at least I have not figured out how to do so).

There is a hardware settings app in the windows control panel to change boot priorities and there is no option that does not include floppy.

Most new laptops (and some desttops) do not come with floppy drives anymore.  USB floppys are used if needed.

I feel that an endless loop condition is a BUG that should be fixed.

Laptops are fast becoming the computer of choise as their prices continue to drop.  Most will not come with built-in floppy drives and hense wont work with the current state of AROS.

Loki
Title: Re: AROS Hardware Poll
Post by: amigamad on January 09, 2004, 12:59:13 AM
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chose G3. laptop, go iBook.


I would not these apple laptops are badly made and thousands of people have dead ones both g4 an g3 mainboards are dying one person is on the second motherboard in the first year of ownership. :-?
Title: Re: AROS Hardware Poll
Post by: Rodney on January 09, 2004, 05:17:11 AM
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AROS on it sounds like a possible business opportunity


AROS is not a commercial OS. At best its only a hobby OS and it needs some serious developments before people can use it as they're main OS. Even then it'll only be geeks that are using at its main OS.

AROS is great, i wish it all the luck, hopfuly i'll help one day, but its got a long way to go before it gets to any state where someone could consider selling it pre bundled.
Title: Re: AROS Hardware Poll
Post by: stychokiller on January 09, 2004, 06:05:33 AM
How about finishing the remaining 15% or so of
Amiga OS3.1 that's still not done, instead of
worrying about what hardware AROS should run on?
Personally, I would like to see AROS run on my A4000T, mainly so I can fix the minor bug that
exists within IPrefs.
Jim Steichen, author of AmigaTalk
Title: Re: AROS Hardware Poll
Post by: dammy on January 09, 2004, 07:12:46 AM
Poster: stychokiller Date: 2004/1/9 1:05:33


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How about finishing the remaining 15% or so of
Amiga OS3.1 that's still not done, instead of
worrying about what hardware AROS should run on?


Let me jump in here and clarify something.  This poll has nothing directly to do with the AROS Devs so they are continuing to do their coding as they have been doing for many years now.  This is poll is my idea on trying to gage what people want in prebuilt machines.  So if you want to flame anyone, flame me but not the AROS Devs, they don't have anything to do with it.

The results so far are suprising to me in some ways, reinforcing my point of view in other ways.  So keep 'em coming!  :-D

Dammy
Title: Re: AROS Hardware Poll
Post by: XDelusion on January 09, 2004, 01:33:50 PM
Oh in that case I want it to run on my Microwave oven!
Title: Re: AROS Hardware Poll
Post by: bloodline on January 09, 2004, 02:07:23 PM
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No go!

Here's the deal:

The floppy can't be disabled or enabled.

Floppy access is external USB only.

CMOS can't be accessed as usual at boot-up (at least I have not figured out how to do so).

There is a hardware settings app in the windows control panel to change boot priorities and there is no option that does not include floppy.

Most new laptops (and some desttops) do not come with floppy drives anymore. USB floppys are used if needed.

I feel that an endless loop condition is a BUG that should be fixed.

Laptops are fast becoming the computer of choise as their prices continue to drop. Most will not come with built-in floppy drives and hense wont work with the current state of AROS.


Hmmm, you are a bit stuck then... I must say it's odd thoguh, I've tried the Latest build on two Laptops now (neither with a Floppy drive) and had no problems what so ever.

One of those laptops is my own and you can see it here, running fine no floppy drive in sight!



AROS Laptop (http://amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=574)
Title: Re: AROS Hardware Poll
Post by: AmigaMac on January 10, 2004, 05:38:59 PM
AROS would be useful on a PDA.  Maybe you could get IBM to donate a few of their PowerPC based PDA prototypes to develop the ultimate Amiga PDA.

 8-)
Title: Re: AROS Hardware Poll
Post by: XDelusion on January 10, 2004, 10:19:26 PM
I bet they would.