Convert PC Floppy to Amiga Floppy?

[darksun9210]

i think www.amigakit.co.uk have them... :-)

[Dandy]

sim085 wrote:

Yes I plan to buy one of these to share internet connection on my A500+ as well

If you're planning to access the web with your A500+, my posting in your other thread might be of interest for you:

Dandy wrote:

redfox wrote:
@Sim085

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Not sure if there are add-on parts for USB and network connections.  
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AFAIK you can get an clockport (like the A1200 has) interface for the A500 ( A500 clockport interface ), to which you can connect either an ZorroII Highway card or clockport Subway card from E3B.

I could very well imagine that there are USB-NICs available that basically should enable your A500 for broadband access
(if browsing the web is much fun with those specs remains to be seen - in case you try it your report would be very welcome here, I think).

As driver serves the Anaiis USB stack for limited Amigas:
anaiis.readme

EDIT:
There's a thread on this topic at amigaworld.net

Especially, as it not just offers a possibility to access the web with your A500+, but also gives you access to a wide range of USB devices...

EDIT II:

I forgot to mention that a minimum requirement for the "Subway" is a 68030 CPU @ 25 mHz. So if you want to have USB in an A500, you have to get hold of an A500-accelerator with at least an 68030 @ 25 mHz onboard.

[amigaksi]

>by darksun9210 on 2008/8/12 7:57:42

>not being funny, but i haven't heard of anyone using those "floppy simulators".

Your limited experience is the reason for your erroneous conclusions.
 
>and to be honest, a cable going directly from the amiga floppy port to a parallel/serial port on a PC? yeah, right oh.

No, not serial port.  Parallel port.  If you had studied your Amiga and PC before blurting out your erroneous conclusions, you would know that parallel ports and the amiga floppy ports use TTL voltages whereas serial ports use higher voltage levels.

>but unless someone is willing to try this and risk blowing up either their PC or amiga, a call shinanigans on that... as surely if it was that easy, we'd have had this nailed years ago?

That's what they told Newton as well when they ridiculed him:

http://books.google.com/books?id=Yn64kRZiUvcC&pg=PA2&lpg=PA2&dq=newton+was+ridiculed&source=web&ots=WUjr2ggAez&sig=xDxI1Z2KhvUFSi3NUzZ5kyVX27I&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result

I hate googling but you need immediate answers.  As I stated your errorneous conclusions are a result of your limited experience.

>looks to me like someone wants to get rid of a job lot of PC floppy cables, and made a botched job of the connections.  (not that i would be able to do any better  )

Why don't you try it out or ask someone who has or ask for a reference to a person from me who has tried it out instead of speculating your brains out.  I have been using the floppy simulator for a few years now.  Only in 2006, I released it for general purpose use.  I have a PC hooked up to an Atari and an Amiga simultaneously and can write a program that splits itself and shares resources on all three-- beats any PC that you will ever have since I'll always have the advantage of running Atari/Amiga stuff along with PC stuff.

[amigaksi]

>by sim085 on 2008/8/15 2:20:42

>Yes I plan to buy one of these to share internet connection on my A500+ as well

I thought the thread was over but I'm glad I decided to re-read it.  Anyway that floppy simulator link is now different:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320287359400

Yeah, it does come with 14-day money back guarantee.  And there is no botch-job on the cable.  There is purposefully a cut in the cable to allow for jumpers for simulating DF2: and DF3: and the cables are made by a cable manufacturing company not at home.  Some people don't even read the description before they post their narrow-minded opinions.

[amigaksi]

>by arion on 2008/8/15 3:48:42

>I´ve read about using a null modem cable but i have never seen one so where might i get one ? Do i have to order one online or can i get one from any computer store ?

I tried that using Amiga Access and Windows Terminal and it does allow you to transfer stuff, but it's really slow and clumsy way to do things.  Storage is one of the reasons I developed the floppy simulator-- PC storage is definitely better with CD-Rs/DVD-Rs, more robust hard drive technology, etc.  so it's better to keep data there and use it when needed on the Amiga/Atari end without having to rely on read/write errors of floppy disks.  Of course, PC HDs also crash eventually and I wonder why the modern OSes don't support a redundant system-area so even if the boot-area goes bad, it can use another part of the hard drive to boot from.  

[sim085]

Thanks to everyone for the replies - I feel I have a good set of potential solutions now and I just have to decide which one to adopt.

@Dandy
So this clockport just gives me the possibility to connect usb devices to my A500+? If so, where would I have to connect it on my A500+?

[Dandy]

sim085 wrote:

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@Dandy
So this clockport just gives me the possibility to connect usb devices to my A500+? If so, where would I have to connect it on my A500+?

Hum - if you follow the link I provided to the "A500 clockport interface", you'll see that the text there starts with:

"The Clockport Adapter for the 68k socket of your Amiga 500..."

So it should be clear that you have to remove the 68000-CPU from its socket, plug the clockport interface into the emty CPU socket and plug the CPU into the empty socket on the Clockport Adapter.

As this "A500 clockport interface" offers two clockports, I would bet you can connect all the clockport expansions (mostly with "loop through" clockports) that are available for the A1200 to it - aside from all the USB devices (e.g. memory sticks, SD-card readers, BlueTooth, ...) you can attach, if you connect either an ZorroII "Highway" card (also with clockport connection) or clockport (only) "Subway" card from E3B.

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I forgot to mention that a minimum requirement for the "Subway" is a 68030 CPU @ 25 mHz. So if you want to have USB in an A500, you gotta get hold of an A500-accelerator with at least an 68030 @ 25 mHz.

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I still have two A500 with Viper520 lying around (for one of them I even have a brandnew and unused Zorro-II bus expansion board with A2000 CPU-slot (for e.g. a 2060 accelerator card - too sad that the planned CSPPC for A2k never went into production - imagine an A500 with OS4!) from the Micronik A500-tower-conversion-kit with Micronik keyboard interface for PC keyboards) - and I'm considering to buy an clockport interface together with an "Subway" clockport USB card for both of them. Hopefully I will have the spare time one day to fit it all together...