Bastards!!!

[Cass]

But are they inglorious?

Just Inglourious!

I prefer my Wii,reminds me of the early AMiGA days!
Plenty of nice games/Killer Apps (literally : Mad World), innovative interface (Motion plus & Nunchuck), and the most fun of it Homebrew Channel. I`ve already got C64 & Amiga games running on my Wii ;-)

[Arkhan]

why bother suing over the lack of using a free OS?

if you bought the PS3 specifically for Linux, uhhh.....
:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
get a computer, do the Linuxing there.  Shame on you for buying an "all in one" mediacenterthing without intending to play games on it!


You should try the games!  I hear they're pretty great.

[jkirk]

why bother suing over the lack of using a free OS?

if you bought the PS3 specifically for Linux, uhhh.....
:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
get a computer, do the Linuxing there.  Shame on you for buying an "all in one" mediacenterthing without intending to play games on it!


You should try the games!  I hear they're pretty great.

uhh still stuck on that huh? if the ps3 was bought specifically for linux they wouldn't bother upgrading the firmware. if the firmware wasn't upgraded this wouldn't be an issue. however since this is not what it was specifically bought for, there is an issue that an advertised function has been removed.

just because you don't need this function does not make it a moot point.

[Arkhan]

I think you're talking about something else.

Im talking about if the person complaining bought the PS3 *only* for linux, as that would be kind of a poor idea.

[jkirk]

I think you're talking about something else.

Im talking about if the person complaining bought the PS3 *only* for linux, as that would be kind of a poor idea.

the point i am making tho is if someone bought the ps3 only for linux. they should have no issues since they won't have to upgrade the firmware.

the ones complaining wants to play games,watch a bd, and use linux. not necessarily at the same time.:lol:

aka: linux is not the goal but is definitely in the picture.

[scuzzb494]

it has been said several times by several people in this thread that the ps3 is a games console, or made for games or things to that effect.

that is not what sony is selling it as "it does everything" is their slogan and in several of the commercials as well as in some ads "is does linux" was mentioned directly.

they want this to be more than a games machine. that is why they included "other os" if someone bought a machine because of that option and the company disabled it or the entire console or any part of it becuase they refused to update sony should expect lawsuits.
this isnt important to me because i dont like sony. it might not be important to you for various reasons but the fact is sony has done something wrong here and that sucks.

personally all i wanted was a games console, i have a computer for programming and apps and internet and a player for movies, so i got a wii "it does games"

Not any more... The SLIM does not support Other OS. What you are all missing is the failure of SONY at the time of the FAT to recapture the market from Microsoft. SONY has worked hard to get the machine back on the top shelf and that has been to a greater extent due to the success of the SLIM. The FAT is dead now and the technology needs to be upgraded. SONY are focussing on the future and they are living in today. Sadly that means the 3 year old FAT is not their promoted current technology. They have had to part company with the great ideals to take on the mighty Microsoft. We need SONY to succeed or else we will condemned to a world of MS. LINUX is not mainstream, it is a specialist OS, it is totally irrelevant to the game market today. SONY has at last accepeted their true purpose for the PS3 and now it is thundering through to take control of that market. SONY do not need LINUX. They have not abandoned the FAT... They give you the option not to install the update. And if you want a LINUX PS3 ... then dont update... And if you want to play games go get a SLIM... AND SUPPORT SONY.

You really need to get up to date and see the bigger picture here and on this matter stop wallowing around in obscurity. There is a massive industry at risk here, a commercial interest by a giant that at one point was thinking of ditching gaming consoles. That cannot happen.

MS must not win....

And if you want to see just how many FATs there are still being used just check out the forums for the Monday of April 1st. Had this problem not been resolved by the Tuesday there would have been an uprising. And these guys are not using the machines for LINUX. They are like me gamers. I need my FAT up to date as all these other guys.

[tokyoracer]

MS must not win....

Oh and why not?

It's the cheapest in the market, (mine at-least) is pretty reliableand has the best selection of games. I actually think it's the best out of the 3 and for a change Microsoft has actually made a good product. That's from someone who was an (ex) PS fanboy :lol: .
I got a PS1 back in 97/98 time and then a PS2 Jan 2001. Both where hugely great at the time but since I got the 360 before the PS3, I'm more then happy with that personally.

Anyway about the PS3 and Linux support. I think that is a bit bogus of them to do that especially as it was another reason to buy a PS3 in the first place. Still, not the end of the world at all but is yet another attempt at Sony doing what they think is best an p***ing off their customers paying hard erned cash on their hardware.

Maybe they did it because of risk of getting hacked? This is the only reason i'd be happy with, otherwise it's pathetic.

[EDIT] If reliability is an issue for the 360 then they have a pretty comprehensive guarantee, so nothing to worry about.

[recidivist]

Sony should not be permitted to disable advertised features that no doubt played a part in buyers' choices;it is perfectly acceptable for Sony to stop selling new  units that no longer have those features ,and which are not advertised as having those features.
 Sony demanding the right to disable advertised features of any product in order to continue using services or functions the users have been promised and have been using is just wrong.

 And as much as people love to bash MS,if MS can bring the best product for the market  at the best price then MS deserves to win.

 I do believe honest competition is good and would hate to see a world where there is only one console,one car company,one language,etc.

[coldfish]

What's interesting is how quickly Sony can drop support for something they were using as a marketing hook only a short while before. It's unsubtle, and erodes any credibility they still had.

I'm all for Sony doing things like this however, as it will only alienate more consumers and in the long term that will come back to bite them.

Im glad Nintendo have dominated this generation, leaving Sony and Microsoft to scramble about trying to score sloppy seconds.

Maybe it will make them try harder next generation?

[jkirk]

MS must not win....

atm i have more respect for ms than sony.

[Trev]

So, fallout so far includes systems that won't play games, systems with flakely network connections, systems that won't play Blu-Ray discs, and incompatibility with fully licensed third-party peripherals. Good job, Sony! If Sony didn't have a closed, proprietary platform, I'd have more sympathy for them.

[som99]

Well, as most people here knows nothing and I get mad by reading some coments here ill speak up!

First off, I bought mine mostly for Linux (else i could just buy a 360), YES I can use my normal PC for linux BUT I wanted to explore the Cell CPU!

I love to code for linux and I love to code for diffrent CPU architectures! I have worked ALOT on ARM based systems and I wanted to work on the PS3.

I do it because I WANT THE CHALLANGE AND TO LEARN SOMETHING NEW! Since I can't ever afford Sonys SDK, what other choice do I have but to code for linux on the PS3?

The PS3 was marketed alot as a Multimedia all in one gaming console, then the OS part should not dissapere.

There will be a way to bypass the FW/SW protections on the PS3 anyways so why bother remove something they advertised the system with? (*chough* rockstars amount of cash spent on awfull DRM that was cracked near release)

Can you guys even imagine how many man hours that is spent on the YDL for PS3?

All that for nothing, because now you have to pick what you want to do, play the great games or use it as a Linux machine, I FOR ONE payed for both.

It's like getting a new Smartphone, and after a few months you have to pick if you want to use it as a Phone to call/text or if you want to be able to use it as a pocket Web browser, ABSURD.

Im mad. Why can't people understand that this might be a big deal for some people, because they want Linux on their PS3 for some reason? Would you be happy if you bought something like a PS3 over say a xbox 360 because of some strong points like alt OS and then it was removed, I might add that I bought the PS3 near release of the system and I payed shitloads more for it then a xbox 360 cost.

Because some of you do not understand why some PS3 owners get upset dosen't mean we are unjustified to complain.

Think how many people around the world think we amiga nuts are crazy because we do what we do! Including my wife that thinks im nuts and I spend to much money on what in hear eyes are old junk, and many of my friend who thinks im nut and just call it expensive junk, and I desperately defend the AMIGA with fists and claws.....

Think about it.

[koaftder]

http://www.thinq.co.uk/news/2010/4/7/sony-update-bricks-fat-playstations/
:lol:

[rare_j]

No one need update to 3.21... you can stay on 3.15 and have full access to PSN.
Check here: http://rvlution.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=123

It works.

[som99]

No one need update to 3.21... you can stay on 3.15 and have full access to PSN.
Check here: http://rvlution.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=123

It works.

Im not willing to use my PS3 against a strangers DSN server. Atleast not untill I have fully investigated if and what kinds of exploits/bugs it can bring, also not before Aaron releases his config to the public.

Basicly his DSN server redicts me to PSN and my PS3 will think it's updated, tho somehow I can not shake the feeling this could lead to PS3 bans if Sony does something about it.

[rare_j]

Set up your own DNS? Full instructions are given and it is as easy as falling off a log.